Was WWI Inevitable?

bombshoo

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On the day the archduke was assinated, what if the shooter missed? What if he had fired three shots none hit, and he had to flee? The Austrians looked into it, but since no harm was done, shortly forgot it, and it was never traced back to Serbia. What would have happened?

Was nationalism so high, that WWI was going to happen no matter what? Or could nationalism be self destructive, and cause revolts for reformation into republics or civil wars?

Would it just end up being fought over some stupid strip of land in Africa?

If it hadn't happened later, would the alliance system still trigger the way it did and bring in all the great powers?
 
Was nationalism so high, that WWI was going to happen no matter what?

Yes. For example, the French and Germans hated each other so bitterly, that, combined with the nonexistant foreign political skills of Wilhelm II, it was inevitable that these two countries would go to war with each other. The French hated the Germans for the defeat in the 1870/71 war, for grabbing Alsace-Lorraine, for letting the French know at every occasion that they feel superior to them and for maintaining an unecessary policy of educating their children in hate and degradation towards the French.
Under Wilhelm II, the Germans suffered from jingoism and megalomania, making them believe it was necessary to expand eastwards and annex the countries that they felt were unrighteously taken from them.
Nationalism and militarism was so high in Germany that the people wanted a war, no matter with whom. Therefore, the Germans would have taken any chance to go to war.
 
Nope!
 
I think it was probably inevitible but what puzzles me if what if Russia had revolted before the war and Russia not being in WWI. Because Russia had some revolts already that were already put down. But what if one of them was successful?
 
they all caused the war not just the germans

I was giving an example. Still, while probably all participating European countries were guilty, Germany had the most aggressive ideology and was responsible for most of the atrocities of the war.
 
Nope!
 
The war was inevitable, IMHO. The assassination of the Arch-Duke was just the spark that started the war. Europe was just a tinderbox waiting to be set aflame. There was tension due to Nationalism, the Arms race, Colonialism, and a multitude of other factors. Someone was bound to go to war at some point, and, thanks to the war plans of most nations involving alliances, Europe would break into war.

BTW, why is WWI actually called World War I? It wasn't very global. It was mainly fought in Europe with some colonies exchanging hands overseas. Other than the U.S. and Canada, all of the participants were European or under European rule.
 
bombshoo said:
Japan fought Germany in WWI

Yes and so did other nations. IMHO I think the first World War was The Seven Years war back in the 1700's. I do not think that WWI was World War since World War should at lest take place on more than one continant. It is only called it since it was the first modern war in European history on such a large scale. They needed a big fancy name for the war due to all of the death, so they called it world war.
 
There was a famous meeting that the Kaiser held with his advisers in December 1912, during which - many historians believe - they agreed that a war would be desirable in about 18 months' time. Whether or not that's true, I think that it's certain that internal pressures led the German commanders to want a war just as much as international ones did. They feared Marxism and socialism and internal division among the people, and felt - no doubt quite rightly - that a war would be just the thing to unite everyone and quell the (largely imagined) worker dissatisfaction that they thought threatened the old regime.
 
Emp.Napoleon said:
Yes and so did other nations. IMHO I think the first World War was The Seven Years war back in the 1700's. I do not think that WWI was World War since World War should at lest take place on more than one continant. It is only called it since it was the first modern war in European history on such a large scale. They needed a big fancy name for the war due to all of the death, so they called it world war.

Actually, in the UK between the two wars it was known as the Great war. It was only really after the Second World War that it's current title was used.
 
Simply, yes. The great powers of Europe simply had irreconcilable conflicts of (critical) interest that precluded them from seeking any settlement. The 1815 Congress of Vienna political structures that had guided Europe for almost exactly a century finally broke down in 1914 not because of automatic treaties - there were none - or wayward diplomats, but because fundamentally peace was no longer desirable for the great powers. There is no real connection between the Archduke's assassination and the World War, other than the great powers seized upon it as an excuse for their final showdown. It could have been Bulgaria/Bosnia in 1908, Morocco in 1905 or 1911, the Balkan Wars of 1912-13, or something thereafter. The actual spark for the war was irrelevant; it merely served as an opportunity and a pretext. The German, French, Belgian, British and eventually American soldiers - along with all the colonial "allies" as well - fighting on the Western Front (the main theater of the war) were not shouting "Remember the Archduke!" or "Free Belgrade!" as they lobbed things at one another across trench lines.

From 28. June until 04. July, 1914, the crisis of the Archduke's assassination was the main point. It was the central focus, and many - Germany and Britain - urged Austria-Hungary to just act quickly so the crisis would fade. But by the evening of 04. July, Germany saw strategic interest in having a final showdown with Russia and France now, and from this moment on - for the rest of the July Crisis until 28. July, while diplomats scurried across Europe trying desperately to stop a disaster - there was going to be a war. Only the details of its shape and participants was left to decide. Russia, out of desperate sense that its survival as an imperial power was at stake (and not because of any crapola love for fellow Orthodox Christian Slavs like the Serbs, as some assert), felt obligated to protect Serbia no matter what. France, humiliated by the 1870-71 war and watching its industrial and population growth surpassed by Germany, felt equally as desperately that it needed to retain its most important ally (Russia) by supporting its every move. Austria-Hungary felt its very existance depended on a final resolution of its hostile relationship with Serbia, much as the United States in 2001 felt compelled to remove the Taleban from power in Afghanistan. Britain, alarmed increasingly since the inception of Wilhelm II's rule by military and economic challenges from Germany, could not tolerate German hegemony on the Continent. So there you have a handful of great powers all feeling increasingly desperate and whose core interests seemingly are at odds, add a whole slue of new military toys invented in the 19th century (and only tested on minor battlefields, and exclusively with offensive operations in mind), throw in several land- and power-hungry smaller powers (Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Japan, etc.) and an old empire teetering on the abyss but hungry for revenge against perceived slights from Russia and the Christian West, and you got youirself a World War. Adding another burgeoning great power from across the Atlantic later when the great European powers have largely exhausted their material and manpower reserves is optional.
 
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