We need a 'no Ghandi button in setup'

[Zaarin]

If you want it to be random, but you don't mind knowing who they are, you can always use random.org: You give every civ a number and roll random.org until you got the amount of civs you want. And because you don't give the civs you don't want numbers, you wont get those.

For example, I'm playing Rome and I don't want Ghandi in my game. There are now 20 civs left, so I roll a number between 1 and 20. I get 1, which is Alexander. So Alexander is my first opponent. Next, I get 20, which is Victoria. So she's my second opponent. Next I get 1 again, so I reroll, and I get 5, who is... and so on. (I only know the first and last civ in the list by heart...)

That could work, but I rather enjoy being surprised in game.

 

[ltccone]

That could work, but I rather enjoy being surprised in game.

Exactly. After I exclude India for example, I don't want to know the other civs until I see them.

 

[nzcamel]

Exactly. After I exclude India for example, I don't want to know the other civs until I see them.

Ditto.

 

[The Kingmaker]

It happened again. The wife and I sat down for a quick MP match. Just a small world, only six leaders. Besides her civ and mine, I picked Cyrus as one of the 4 remaining AI, just to observe him and get a feel for his AI. As we play, we start to meet the other AIs. The wife meets Hardrada. I meet Pedro. Who is the final AI?

Gandhi. Yet again.

I cannot escape him. I thought the odds were pretty good. How wrong I was.

 

[king of nowhere]

I don't see what's so wrong with ghandi. I find him actually very peaceful. He never declared war on me outside of the ancient era, when declaring war has no warmonger penalty. When I set out to get the "give peace a chance" achievement, which required a huge map and 7 civilizations founding a religion and being at peace at the same time, I played with 12 ghandi. in the ancient era there were several wars, but they gradually stopped; I got the achievement around the midddle age (was quite the mixture of funny and annoying to have all diplomatic events like "ghanddi has declared war on ghandi, ghandi denounces ghandi, ghandi declared friendship with ghandi). I have never seen a huge map at deity with no wars going on in the middle age. I have no idea why he seems so fond of declaring war on you guys. maybe you occupy some of his cities?

 

[Zaarin]

I don't see what's so wrong with ghandi. I find him actually very peaceful. He never declared war on me outside of the ancient era, when declaring war has no warmonger penalty. When I set out to get the "give peace a chance" achievement, which required a huge map and 7 civilizations founding a religion and being at peace at the same time, I played with 12 ghandi. in the ancient era there were several wars, but they gradually stopped; I got the achievement around the midddle age (was quite the mixture of funny and annoying to have all diplomatic events like "ghanddi has declared war on ghandi, ghandi denounces ghandi, ghandi declared friendship with ghandi). I have never seen a huge map at deity with no wars going on in the middle age. I have no idea why he seems so fond of declaring war on you guys. maybe you occupy some of his cities?

My playstyle is completely pacifist; I have declared exactly one war in Civ6 and that was explicitly to try a Domination victory, on a small map as the Aztecs against Harald Hardrada. Gandhi declares joint wars like candy, against both myself and the AI. No other leader is as quick to go to war as Gandhi--not even supposedly more warlike leaders like Gorgo and Alexander. Only Tomyris even comes close, in my experience (except she declares surprise wars [does she denounce herself, I wonder?], not joint wars). Teddy has a tendency to be a backstabber, too, but not as frequently as Gandhi and Tomyris.

 

[king of nowhere]

I wonder why we get such different experiences. Roosvelt is a warmonger in my games too - keeps making peace with me, getting good relations with me, then declaring war again - but I generally have good relations with tomyris, and excellent with ghandi.

possibly my experience of perfect peace with 12 ghandi is because ghandi only declares join wars, so if he has nobody to start the war - and get the blame - he never start wars. and I've never seen him declare wars for which he can be dubbed a warmonger, exactly like it says in his agenda. no surprise wars from him, ever. even if he does have a tendency to declare joint wars.

anyway, try having alexander near you instead of ghandi. alexander will keep figthing you until you kill him. but the one I hate most is gorgo. she won't accept any peace condition where shhe has to give you something. you don't want to go all the way and kill her, so you accept a peace without other conditions. she dencounces you because you accepted peace too easily. at least alexander makes sense

 

[ltccone]

My playstyle is completely pacifist; I have declared exactly one war in Civ6 and that was explicitly to try a Domination victory, on a small map as the Aztecs against Harald Hardrada. Gandhi declares joint wars like candy, against both myself and the AI. No other leader is as quick to go to war as Gandhi--not even supposedly more warlike leaders like Gorgo and Alexander. Only Tomyris even comes close, in my experience (except she declares surprise wars [does she denounce herself, I wonder?], not joint wars). Teddy has a tendency to be a backstabber, too, but not as frequently as Gandhi and Tomyris.

I totally agree that 'he declares joint wars like candy.' If you are pacifist, why are you declaring wars at all?

 

[Zaarin]

anyway, try having alexander near you instead of ghandi. alexander will keep figthing you until you kill him. but the one I hate most is gorgo. she won't accept any peace condition where shhe has to give you something. you don't want to go all the way and kill her, so you accept a peace without other conditions. she dencounces you because you accepted peace too easily. at least alexander makes sense

I've only played one game since the DLC, and while Alexander did show up he was on the opposite side of the world and we hardly interacted--then Germany declared a war of territorial expansion on me and suddenly Alexander wants to be my friend.