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Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Yeah, well, you know... my name is Stormrage, and I`m a chat-oholic...
aaglo
Furioso!
Nice changes, mrtn. 
I'll be home tonight and ready to discuss the matters you wanted (in about 9 hours). I wonder what do you want to discuss about the treeman though (that means I'm exited to hear your rants about the list I made).
Oh, are you sure I wanted the leadbelcher to become cheaper than it already was (I already forgot what I wrote to that list).
Suggestions to dragon ogre and shaggoth:
Dragon ogre: 13.5.2, +2 HP, cost around 140
Shaggoth: 19.8.2, +3 HP, cost around 300
About shaggoth & storm rage: what does that special ability actually do (spawns little green men with handsome axes)?
I'll be home tonight and ready to discuss the matters you wanted (in about 9 hours). I wonder what do you want to discuss about the treeman though (that means I'm exited to hear your rants about the list I made).
Oh, are you sure I wanted the leadbelcher to become cheaper than it already was (I already forgot what I wrote to that list).
Suggestions to dragon ogre and shaggoth:
Dragon ogre: 13.5.2, +2 HP, cost around 140
Shaggoth: 19.8.2, +3 HP, cost around 300
About shaggoth & storm rage: what does that special ability actually do (spawns little green men with handsome axes)?
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Hmm...Ironguts have attack strength of 12 and Dragon Ogre only +1?
You guys know the table-top stats and rules, are dragons stronger than Shaggoths in there too? Cos I think the Shaggoth should be the strongest unit in the mod, cos its so cool, and cos its so cool
And I can`t wait to see how my first slayer-shaggoth encouter will go!
You guys know the table-top stats and rules, are dragons stronger than Shaggoths in there too? Cos I think the Shaggoth should be the strongest unit in the mod, cos its so cool, and cos its so cool
And I can`t wait to see how my first slayer-shaggoth encouter will go!
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
I can't find the Shaggoth statline in a hurry, but it's supposed yo be only almost as strong as dragon.
I'm kinda out of the loop on Warhammer these days, but back in my day only Greater Daemons could compare to dragons.
I'm kinda out of the loop on Warhammer these days, but back in my day only Greater Daemons could compare to dragons.
aaglo
Furioso!
Well, dragon ogres don't come in such abundance as ironguts. Plus, they have movement 2 and +2HP (compared to irongut's movement 1 and +1HP)
And shaggoths don't fly =ATAR-bonus (that's why they're a lot cheaper than dragons).
Also, dragon ogres should have no movement penalty on hills (and possibly on deserts), and shaggoths should have no movement penalty on hills (and possibly on deserts and mountains)
And shaggoths don't fly =ATAR-bonus (that's why they're a lot cheaper than dragons).
Also, dragon ogres should have no movement penalty on hills (and possibly on deserts), and shaggoths should have no movement penalty on hills (and possibly on deserts and mountains)
LMR
Back In Green!
changing topic completely, but i think the skaven starting tech Under-Empire should have the "cures disease" flag (or whatever it is called) checked.
Well, it took me 4 years (4 years in ten days...) to get to that point...Stormrage said:
@aaglo, the Treeman thing was that I added it to your excel sheet, that thinks it should be 12/9/2...
Dragon Ogres and Shaggoths also don't have the other flying abilities, like radar.
I think 5 is too low defense for the Dragon Ogre, that's as much as an ordinary Ogre, without armour, and the Dragon Ogre has scales...
The Storm Rage rule means that if a Shaggoth gets hit by a lightning attack he gets frenzied.
@LizardMenRule! - i disagree, the skaven are just as prone to disease as men. Clan Pestilens is both a blessing and a curse.
Heh, silly idea (but I like it): put a plague unit (censer bearer or plague monk or something) at Pharmacy.
That would also make the Skaven more prone to research it.
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Point taken. About everything
I think dragon ogres should ignore hills, and and shaggots should ignore hills and mountains.
I noticed my Skinks are dying of desease... is this supposed to happen?
I think dragon ogres should ignore hills, and and shaggots should ignore hills and mountains.
I noticed my Skinks are dying of desease... is this supposed to happen?
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Oh, thats good to know Thanks mrtn!
Thanks mrtn!
LMR
Back In Green!
mrtn said:@LizardMenRule! - i disagree, the skaven are just as prone to disease as men. Clan Pestilens is both a blessing and a curse.
Okay
mrtn said:Heh, silly idea (but I like it): put a plague unit (censer bearer or plague monk or something) at Pharmacy.
i like!Will there be a Skaven only improvement like the Rune Forge that allows units to "paradrop"? Something like Tunnel, available with Under-Empire, that increases science by 50%?
Possibly, but that requires paradrop units, and there's still a bunch of skaven missing.
BTW, I played my first Mordheim game today; my skaven allied with some pirates and took out some reiklanders and Sisters of Sigmar. What to do with my 5 warpstone shards?
BTW, I played my first Mordheim game today; my skaven allied with some pirates and took out some reiklanders and Sisters of Sigmar. What to do with my 5 warpstone shards?
LMR
Back In Green!
grind it into a fine powder and have some fun
Do you think that it would be too unbalanced to have several Skaven units able to paradrop? like the nightrunner, gutterrunner and giant rat?
there was talk earlier in this thread about having a generic skaven paradrop animation that could be used for any skaven unit
Do you think that it would be too unbalanced to have several Skaven units able to paradrop? like the nightrunner, gutterrunner and giant rat?
there was talk earlier in this thread about having a generic skaven paradrop animation that could be used for any skaven unit
I don't know about paradropping. It depends on what building allows it, and when that's available. And if those units are already obsolete at that time. And of course there's no Giant Rats available yet...
And of course if it's seen as unbalancing... Haven't made my mind up on that yet.
BTW, I though about the rat swarm, it could be made a 1/1/1 ATAR unit, available at Domestication.
Edit: Would this be something for the Skaven? Most of the grey, except the head, has civ colour.
And of course if it's seen as unbalancing... Haven't made my mind up on that yet.
BTW, I though about the rat swarm, it could be made a 1/1/1 ATAR unit, available at Domestication.
Edit: Would this be something for the Skaven? Most of the grey, except the head, has civ colour.
LMR
Back In Green!
it kinda looks like it is wearing a hood, so perhaps it could be a plague monk or something. could you give it a weapon?
is in a ToT unit?
since the skaven civ-colour is grey, that wouldn't really matter, would it?
Sounds good for Rat Swarm.
is in a ToT unit?
since the skaven civ-colour is grey, that wouldn't really matter, would it?
Sounds good for Rat Swarm.
Yes, it's a ToT Sci Fi unit. Someone could give it a weapon, I suppose, but I'm not interested in taking up c'n'p again. I could make everything except the tedious c'n'p job, though, if someone wants to do that. I e convert it, and fix the shadows and civ colour.
Hm, maybe (general) you could give it a throwing star, and make an assassin out of it? That shouldn't be too hard, just add stars to five directions...
I'm thinking about giving the skaven (goblin) brown civ colour instead of grey, as almost all units already are grey. They'd still be the most drab civ in Sigmardom, but they'd have two colours, at least.
I could make everything except the tedious c'n'p job, though, if someone wants to do that. I e convert it, and fix the shadows and civ colour.Hm, maybe (general) you could give it a throwing star, and make an assassin out of it? That shouldn't be too hard, just add stars to five directions...
I'm thinking about giving the skaven (goblin) brown civ colour instead of grey, as almost all units already are grey. They'd still be the most drab civ in Sigmardom, but they'd have two colours, at least.
LMR
Back In Green!
Thinking more about the Skaven starting techs. They should have Chaos and Under-Empire and possible Meteoric Iron, NOT Woodworking (because they live underground they should not be able to learn Deforestation)
If Rat Swarm is gonna be at Domestication, i dunno if they should start with that. or do you think starting with Meteroic Iron is enough of a bonus?
If Rat Swarm is gonna be at Domestication, i dunno if they should start with that. or do you think starting with Meteroic Iron is enough of a bonus?
aaglo
Furioso!
I think that the ToT-unit looks great as it is
What if it was some sort of rat spawn or something?
I like the idea for the skaven not being able to level forests. LMR!'s ideas are good for the starting techs IMO.
What if it was some sort of rat spawn or something?
I like the idea for the skaven not being able to level forests. LMR!'s ideas are good for the starting techs IMO.
LMR
Back In Green!
If mrtn's ToT skaven becomes a Rat Spawn, perhaps that could be a troll-like unit at nature lore, and then upgrade to the the rat ogre at awakening with similar to the dragon ogre.
maybe...
maybe...
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