What browser do you use?

[shadowdude]

Not to mention that you can move the toolbars however you want - to the bottom, to the side, where you want. Opera, for example, comes with a default side panel bar, but I could remove it to the arrangement that I like. I've seen people who have the tabs at the bottom in Firefox.

Indeed, I can't get the tabs or toolbars to move in firefox.

BTW helpful sig hbd

 

[fret]

First of all, all Opera has is one banner ad at the top. I have seen page ads that are much more annoying than Opera's single ad banner. Whole pages that have 5-6 ads that all flash and blink, that disrupt my reading (when I'm reading news articles), and can make me sick.

Huh? I never said anything about adverts, Firefox is free, Opera isnt. But since you mention it, what do adverts on webpages have to do with it, they appear in any browser.

If you chose to be ignorant...so be it.

Ignorant to what? Opera? How can someone who has tried, albeit the free version of Opera, and chose Firebird instead by personal taste be ignorant?

If you chose to make aspertions as to ones character without knowing the person in the first place... so be it

But go to some cracks sites...and you'll see how insecure it is.

I have no need to go anywhere to know about legacy browsers thanks. New browser versions can be a bit of minefield mind you, like with Firebird 0.9rc and its problems with opening a web page directly from Windows when youve set it as the default browser, that came as a bit of a surprise first time I tried it! and then theres the problems with bookmarks that uses .htaccess logins, they really need to fix that.

Do you vigourously test every new browser when they are released? Or are you, like me, ignorent to the plathora of other products available, free or not?

 

[hbdragon88]

Huh? I never said anything about adverts, Firefox is free, Opera isnt. But since you mention it, what do adverts on webpages have to do with it, they appear in any browser.

Opera is free with a banner ad is what I was implying. It's not crippleware where some features are taken away (only toolbar space is taken away), there's not 30-day trial where Opera tells you that you have to register or else you can't use it anymore. I simply think that it is hypocritical for people to point out Opera's one banner ad as a big problem when the pages they load have much more adverts.

Ignorant to what? Opera? How can someone who has tried, albeit the free version of Opera, and chose Firebird instead by personal taste be ignorant?

If you chose to make aspertions as to ones character without knowing the person in the first place... so be it

I thought that you just were going to be ignorant about Internet Explorer's widely-known problems. That you didn't know about how easy it was for spyware to be installed when browsing web sites in IE.

I have no need to go anywhere to know about legacy browsers thanks. New browser versions can be a bit of minefield mind you, like with Firebird 0.9rc and its problems with opening a web page directly from Windows when youve set it as the default browser, that came as a bit of a surprise first time I tried it! and then theres the problems with bookmarks that uses .htaccess logins, they really need to fix that.

Do you vigourously test every new browser when they are released? Or are you, like me, ignorent to the plathora of other products available, free or not?

I am comfortable with occasionally using IE, and I don't think I will ever completely switch over to Opera as my only browser. I know there are problems like that where programs will automatically open up IE instead of the default browser, but that is the program's fault and not the browser's fault.

 

[marioh]

2. None of those browers is necessarily any more secure than Internet Explorer - the same as Linux distros not being any more secure than Windows. It just so happens that the most widely used browser gets the most attacks for exactly that reason: It's the most used browser. This is also the reason there are constant updates to patch these holes in the software. I'm not saying IE is the best, but I'm not saying it's the worst either. Just there's a lot of bias against it.

No need to inject facts into a Microsoft bashing thread !

BTW. I use firefox and IE.

 

[Kyborgi]

Opera - Simply the best Internet Experience

 

[Simba]

This is for those people who use IE:

Go to http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch
Search for "internet explorer" and select "Bugtraq" from the drop-down box. You can find over 300 entries with that when searching in headlines only.

That means there are maybe up to 100 different exploits in different versions of IE, some of which can probably format your hard drives when you visit web pages. So, I would seriously advice you people to change your browser software.

I'm downloading Firefox right now.... it *looks* better than IE, which is what I'm using right now

 

[Gainy]

That means there are maybe up to 100 different exploits in different versions of IE, some of which can probably format your hard drives when you visit web pages.

And that happens to me all the time

I use Internet Explorer. I don't see what all the fuss is about; it does the job, and I have never had any problems with it. Looks just fine too.

 

[Ovulator]

I use firefox, I used to use opera but I ran into problems with CSS and some plugins, that might have been fixed in recent releases but I'm using firefox now and have no problems with it so im sticking with it.

 

[ManOfMiracles]

I know I'm an antique by using Netscape. I like having mail, news, and publisher all in my browser without having to wade through a ton of addons.

Sadly, I'm also required to have IE since our stupid health insurance company will not let you login without it. And for the ultimate in stupid--McAfee virus scanning/firewall software also will not work properly without having IE set as default. I've been trying to tweak my way around it but not always successful. I've also had it out over the phone with their tech idiots. Not having IE as default browser has saved my computer from far more garbage than McAfee products ever will.

When I do work on web design, I check my pages in both Netscape and IE. Don't do much of that anymore so haven't messed with other browsers. Used to be a huge fan of Lynx--nothing loaded faster!

 

[mettux]

I'm suprised no one has mentioned what I'm using - Avant
Like IE, but more secure, and with all the options IE should have had to begin with.

 

[t92300]

A couple of things from the avant FAQ

Is Avant Browser a secure browser?

Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer. Avant Browser supports all SSL secured websites. Avant Browser's encryption length is the same as Internet Explorer's.

How does Avant Browser work?

Based on services provided by Microsoft Internet Explorer, Avant Browser renders and navigates HTML.

...

 

[mettux]

^^ yes, that's very true for stupid people that download it, but you can disable activex, scripts, etc. from a dropdown menu. you can also re-enable them for viewing pdf's, shockwave etc.

The biggest draw is all the options it has, and this:

I still use Internet Explorer is used because Firefox sometimes dislike webpages designed for Internet Explorer.

 

[anarchywrksbest]

That's ridiculous, Internet Explorer doesn't follow the internet standards but because it's a monopoly webpages are made to it's lazy standards.

 

[Thrawn]

Wait, Avant is secure because it's based on IE?

 

[MarineCorps]

^^ yes, that's very true for stupid people that download it, but you can disable activex, scripts, etc. from a dropdown menu. you can also re-enable them for viewing pdf's, shockwave etc.

The biggest draw is all the options it has, and this:

IE has so many holes in that turning those options off ain't gonna make a hell of a lot of difference.

The United States GOverment has said get a browser other then IE. ANything but IE.

 

[shadowdude]

The United States GOverment has said get a browser other then IE. ANything but IE.

If the government finally figured it out, you know it must be bad!

 

[mettux]

IE has so many holes in that turning those options off ain't gonna make a hell of a lot of difference.

Yeah, but that doesn't make it worth it to get firefox or oprah (and i have used both and others) I chose avant because the advantages outweigh the security holes.

 

[Dell19]

The United States GOverment has said get a browser other then IE. ANything but IE.

Where and when did they say that? A link would be nice if possible...

 

[Thrawn]

US Department of Homeland Security says stop using IE.

 

[Dell19]

Ideally it would be nice to see what exactly they said to see whether they actually said use a different browser or recommended that other browsers would be more secure...