I only started posting here after Civ VI was released and we were speculating about the DLC civs. I like it. I like that it's not a cesspool of ignorance and hatred, that in general people seem to have a conscience and broader awareness and are actually interested in history and all the real-world topics Civ covers. I assume that's largely because of the moderators, because every now and then something absolutely vile makes it through before it can be removed. But even so, it's a lot less frequent here than other gaming communities (typically cesspools) and general internet communities (typically cesspools). And frankly if that type of person is getting chased away, there's nothing lost at all... besides maybe the humor in seeing someone being hysterically over-sensitive about purported over-sensitivity, but that gets old too.
If I try to find something negative, it does seem like the off-topic moderation gets a little too strict sometimes. I understand not wanting threads derailed and that usually seems to be where intervention happens, but there also seems to be times where the organic flow of conversation is a little stifled.
I strongly agree. After all, a community is as good as its moderation.
There are many interesting discussions. For example, we made a few thousand posts about speculating the next civs for Rise & Fall, as well as learning about the fascinating cultures of those civs (the inclusion of the Cree for example led to awareness of the Canadian government's poor historical treatment of Chief Poundmaker, and thanks to the Civ community, Poundmaker will be officially exonerated). However, sometimes, discussions can get stifled by the mods, but it's all for the greater good. It means that mods are doing a great job.
Sure laissez-faire modding leads to honest discussions, but often, these "honest" discussions are really toxic and not really things one can say in a crowded public square without coming home physically injured or worse. For example, calling the Cree "lazy Indians" is not exactly civil or constructive, as that is considered ignorant and hateful at best and is very hurtful if uttered in front of a Cree, especially one who grew up in the Residential School system. Me, I want to see Poundmaker's legacy fulfilled and I consider the Cree a great nation that happened to be abused by the Canadian government for the longest time. The Cree are generally not lazy and they are neither ethnically related to Gandhi nor to Chandragupta. I have much great respect for the Cree.
Losing a potential member due to issues with the perceived "over-sensitivity" of the community is not really a loss. There are many other avenues for that, in the form of other Civ communities, in the form of other gaming communities, and in the form of other general Internet communities, and I have an honest discussion about all of those alternatives. Those other avenues are toxic at best, filled with such vile ignorance and hatred towards others.
CivFanatics is a very diverse community, with people of various backgrounds from all around the world. With diversity comes the need for greater moderation.
Those who complain about diversity are generally those who prefer a closed community. Closed communities often have no room for fresh perspectives.
I am very tolerant. Just not the intolerant.
Thank you CivFanatics and thank the mods at CivFanatics for their hard work and dedication making this community the way it is.