What exactly do YOU want?

[TPQ]

Diplo AI. That, or just admit it's not really a civ game and take all the faux diplo out altogether and leave it as a pretty decent war game.

 

[Rinnero]

Im a bit surprised that Diplo has the most votes. Well, thats your choice.

Diplomacy is very important in Civ not because its historical or about civilizations, but because it is gameplay wise FFA. People who play non-civilization games understand what exactly FFA is in other strategies, and how rare FFAs are. (permanent war, but everyone are afraid to attack because it will weaken them and make an easy target for other players)


But remember, that truly good diplo AI is not about being able to have AI-friends that are 100% not to DoW you! To understand what it really should be, you should play several MP matches -> that is where diplomacy exists. (even without all the necessary diplomatic options). Bribing AIs so that they wont attack you is NOT diplomacy.



But still, diplo is needed ONLY for FFA. With good tactical AI you can have great wargame style duels or team matches even without diplomacy. (that is fine with me, I can accept CivV as wargame) On the other side, without tactical AI all diplomacy is useless, and that is not game at all.


BTW, where are those people who wanted animation in MP?

 

[starrywisdom]

BTW, where are those people who wanted animation in MP?

On the official forums still petitioning them for it. Not complaining about it on a third party forum where it won't matter nearly as much.

 

[Rinnero]

On the official forums still petitioning them for it. Not complaining about it on a third party forum where it won't matter nearly as much.

It seems like this "third party" forum has more official responses by firaxis' representatives than "official" forum, leave alone it has more visitors...

 

[starrywisdom]

It seems like this "third party" forum has more official responses by firaxis' representatives than "official" forum, leave alone it has more visitors...

Perception is everything? Search the forums for any post made by '2k'(most devs have that as a prefix) you'll see they post quite often, although most of the time it's not all too 'important'. There has probably been 3 dev posts in the past 30 days here - while about 40 over yonder. As for visitor numbers, the 2k forums have more 'new posts' as well as more new threads by a substantial amount - whether the content is 'better' is up for debate though ;-)

 

[The_J]

Perception is everything? Search the forums for any post made by '2k'(most devs have that as a prefix)

Only the 2K guys have that prefix, the devs don't have it.

 

[starrywisdom]

Only the 2K guys have that prefix, the devs don't have it.

Yes, but outside of the few 'tech support' posts the only official(What most people use dev for) will come from a 2K name

 

[Jim Bro]

diplomacy is SO lacking in substance

 

[Human Crouton]

I want better diplomatic AI, so that I can have game long friends, like everybody else here wants.

But I also want more information. I hate it when a leader asks me for a declaration of friendship, but I have no idea what the repercussions will be. I need to know who that leader is enemies with, and how big their military is. There should be an adviser pop-up that shows their economy, military, and diplomatic status. I can't research this every turn on my own just in case they come to me asking for something.

I also want my foreign adviser to keep track of everything that the AIs do, and make her own in game Excel sheet telling me their military, backstabbing, tile improvement, navy, etc. habits, just like the one we all use anyway.

 

[ShahJahanII]

I want better diplomatic AI, so that I can have game long friends, like everybody else here wants.

But I also want more information. I hate it when a leader asks me for a declaration of friendship, but I have no idea what the repercussions will be. I need to know who that leader is enemies with, and how big their military is. There should be an adviser pop-up that shows their economy, military, and diplomatic status. I can't research this every turn on my own just in case they come to me asking for something.

I also want my foreign adviser to keep track of everything that the AIs do, and make her own in game Excel sheet telling me their military, backstabbing, tile improvement, navy, etc. habits, just like the one we all use anyway.

Try the InfoAddict Mod

 

[Human Crouton]

Try the InfoAddict Mod

Thanks a lot. That looks great. I'll try that when I get home from work.

 

[j-d-s]

Please remove the one unit per tile bug.

 

[Blue Oyster]

Diplo and Tactical AI, like many others.