What if you cloned Jesus

[GoodSarmatian]

All this agreement that the clone wouldn't be Jesus is boring.
I mean I share the opinion, but it's really a shame people didn't have cloning technology in fifth century Rome when the nature of Christ was still hotly debated.

 

[Angst]

There were three of him to begin with, I don't see a problem with one more.

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[Mechanicalsalvation]

All this agreement that the clone wouldn't be Jesus is boring.
I mean I share the opinion, but it's really a shame people didn't have cloning technology in fifth century Rome when the nature of Christ was still hotly debated.

Dont ja worry. Jesus is supposed to come again and now that we have the technology...

 

[bhsup]

Dont ja worry. Jesus is supposed to come again and now that we have the technology...

Yeah, but when he comes back, it's not going to be anything like the first time.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

 

[Borachio]

Link to video.

Lyrics:

Spoiler :

And I heard as it were the noise of thunder
One of the four beasts saying come and see and I saw
And behold a white horse

There's a man going around taking names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
Everybody won't be treated all the same
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down
When the Man comes around

The hairs on your arm will stand up
At the terror in each sip and in each sup
Will you partake of that last offered cup?
Or disappear into the potter's ground
When the Man comes around

Hear the trumpets, hear the pipers
One hundred million angels singing
Multitudes are marching to the big kettledrum
Voices calling, voices crying
Some are born and some are dying
It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom come

And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree
The virgins are all trimming their wicks
The whirlwind is in the thorn tree
It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks

Till Armageddon no shalam, no shalom
Then the father hen will call his chickens home
The wise man will bow down before the throne
And at His feet they'll cast their golden crowns
When the Man comes around

Whoever is unjust let him be unjust still
Whoever is righteous let him be righteous still
Whoever is filthy let him be filthy still
Listen to the words long written down
When the Man comes around

Hear the trumpets, hear the pipers
One hundred million angels singing
Multitudes are marching to the big kettledrum
Voices calling and voices crying
Some are born and some are dying
It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom come

And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree
The virgins are all trimming their wicks
The whirlwind is in the thorn tree
It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks

In measured hundred weight and penney pound
When the Man comes around.

Close (Spoken part)
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts
And I looked and behold, a pale horse
And his name that sat on him was Death
And Hell followed with him.

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

Yeah, but when he comes back, it's not going to be anything like the first time.

I'd say coming back as a clone of himself wouldn't be anything like the firs time, wouldn't you?

 

[bhsup]

Well that's the point. The clone wouldn't be Jesus, neither as the original incarnation here in earth nor as the returning king in all his glory. It's just a clone, nothing more. A sack of meat with no relation to the true.

 

[Borachio]

And yet separated twins act in remarkably similar ways.

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

Personally, I think that when Jesus comes back in all his glory, it's going to be in some manner that no one could even think of. Like, beyond our imaginings even.

So... not a clone, obviously.

 

[bhsup]

And yet still are not the same person. At all.

 

[Borachio]

Just so.

And still I hear tales along the lines of separated twins getting married on the same day, independently, having similar accidents, getting similar jobs. Stuff like that. (Could be it's all just urban mythology?)

It's simply the whole nature-nuture paradigm.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

There are certainly some coincidences where twins separated at birth share a great many similarities that do not have an obvious genetic basis. It tends to be exaggerated though. A significant number of cases were twins end up in similar jobs are when they have jobs like modeling that depend on having a certain look. A lot of similarities that pairs of separated twins often share are things that adopted children who are unrelated also tend to share.


I've heard that in the largest studies comparing twins "separated at birth," only a minority were actually separated at birth. Most of the pairs were still together for a couple years, sometimes even a decade.

Even those who truly were separated at birth still shared the same prenatal conditions. The environment in utero is among the most important factors in a child's development. It is hard to demonstrate that genetics are more important that the environment using studies comparing those who shared a similar environment during the most formative periods of their life.

 

[holy king]

great song, borachio. i'm not christian and not even religious, but it's just such a calming attitude the song derives from that particular religion.

 

[El_Machinae]

Yeah, but when he comes back, it's not going to be anything like the first time.

No wonder he's so mad. Those are some fairly awful congenital mutations he suffered after his scientist-parents screwed up the cloning so badly.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

great song, borachio. i'm not christian and not even religious, but it's just such a calming attitude the song derives from that particular religion.

Thats right Johny rulez...

Yeah, but when he comes back, it's not going to be anything like the first time.

Sounds like lot of fun. The ultimate spectacle show and estrad.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Well that's the point. The clone wouldn't be Jesus, neither as the original incarnation here in earth nor as the returning king in all his glory. It's just a clone, nothing more. A sack of meat with no relation to the true.

The Revelations stuff doesn't sound "glorious" to me. It sounds like a pack of rabid Terminators, combined with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Is this what you use to try to convince people to believe in Jesus?

 

[Borachio]

great song, borachio. i'm not christian and not even religious, but it's just such a calming attitude the song derives from that particular religion.

Nor me (particularly). But this is Cash, at his latest, showing that old age can be of the finest.