What if you cloned Jesus

[timtofly]

If you cloned Jesus 200 times over you could build a pretty stable & unique boat out of the clones.

Why would Jesus need a boat? He walked on water.

How many chromosomes did Jesus have? If you clone him, would the clone have the same number?

How could Jesus have been a male if he was immaculately concepted from a female? Females only have 2 X chromosomes... so perhaps Jesus was actually a woman?

If you clone Jesus would you likewise have to incubate him in a teenage semitic virgin? Can you even find those anymore??

Since the original humans were both sexes, it is quite possible that Jesus was also. If Jesus lived and experienced life as every human, he would also have to experience life as a female. I doubt many think of it that way though?

 

[Ironsided]

Jesus may have had Downs syndrome? He was so kind.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Is it Jesus' life experiences that make him the Christ?

It's Jesus' life experiences that led him to think that pissing off a bunch of Jewish religious authorities was a good idea and that getting crucified would somehow lead to a better future.

Unless there's some gene somewhere that governs martyrdom?

Since I don't accept that Jesus was divine, it doesn't matter if it's only genetic material or life experiences (or some combination of the two) matter in any way other than developing his basic personality and behavioral tendencies.

 

[Nitram15]

Ah, the tragic ironies of an ex-Soviet Blocer moaning about immigrants taking his job.

Then I'll correct myself: They'd go to Western Europe and raise your unemployment, since 'ex Soviet Bloc' (we would call Eastern Bloc, though) simply not the primary target for immigrants (thank God). Also, I didn't say that immigrants would take my job, I said they'd only make our huge unemployment even huger.

 

[Ironsided]

Wish they would come to the north instead of the west. We need more people to live here and be awesome. It's the damn snow though. Turns them off.

 

[Winner]

Ah, the tragic ironies of an ex-Soviet Blocer moaning about immigrants taking his job.

I fail to see the irony. Educate me.

 

[Ironsided]

You did not like the idea of being guaranteed a job and income, and now you whine about not having a guarantee of job and income?

 

[Nitram15]

You did not like the idea of being guaranteed a job and income, and now you whine about not having a guarantee of job and income?

Living under Soviet dictatorship didn't mean that you had a 'guaranteed job', no it was an... illusion of having so many jobs. A not working system, kept up by loans, which were secret from the public. This Kádár-era, as we call it, was somewhat 'good', but when the independent Hungary was declared, our government realized how huge debts we had on an international scale (IMF mostly), which (until today) became bigger and bigger. This is pretty off though, therefore I think we should stop this.

 

[Ironsided]

I think I may understand where you are coming from and I sure as hell do not support the way the USSR and by the greater extent the West f-ed over the eastern bloc of Europe, but tell me what will you gain by pointing fingers and blaming people in more distress than you? Are your frustrations not misguided?

 

[Nitram15]

I think I may understand where you are coming from and I sure as hell do not support the way the USSR and by the greater extent the West f-ed over the eastern bloc of Europe, but tell me what will you gain by pointing fingers and blaming people in more distress than you? Are your frustrations not misguided?

All right, I'll answer this, but no more (at least not in this topic, or we'll sure get an infraction).

I'm not 'pointing' on others, the reason I don't want immigrants is because we have our own problems, and Hungary (let's say) is not prepared for multiculturalism. There are already too much 'different cultures' here. (I probably have a primitive brain, and I am a very anti-illuminated one, but I don't like multiculturalism, and don't judge me, I'm not the only one, that's for sure) Other people bring both their values and their problems too. Sadly, Hungary cannot hold more problems, and these immigrants' values can't help on us currently.

 

[Traitorfish]

I fail to see the irony. Educate me.

In the UK, it's people from places like Hungary that the anti-immigrant crowd accuse of taking their jobs.

Then I'll correct myself: They'd go to Western Europe and raise your unemployment, since 'ex Soviet Bloc' (we would call Eastern Bloc, though) simply not the primary target for immigrants (thank God). Also, I didn't say that immigrants would take my job, I said they'd only make our huge unemployment even huger.

Eh, there's really not much to suggest that immigration produces long-term unemployment. A sudden burst in a bad economy, sure, that could make an impact, but for the most part the whole DUK UR JABS thing is economically groundless.

 

[Winner]

In the UK, it's people from places like Hungary that the anti-immigrant crowd accuse of taking their jobs.

So it seems ironic to your people because of their general ignorance. Why should it be ironic to other people?

 

[GoodSarmatian]

In the UK, it's people from places like Hungary that the anti-immigrant crowd accuse of taking their jobs.

So the mooslims are the Huns and the Hungarians are the Goths ?
History truly repeats itself as a farce.

 

[Borachio]

Migration would seem to be a universal in human history.

That's how we all got where we are today.

I blame global warming and ice sheets for a lot of it.

 

[El_Machinae]

It would be incredibly ironic if the cloned Jesus turned out to become the anti-Christ. Honestly, I wouldn't see that one coming, and I'd very much have egg on my face while the cullings described in Revelation occur.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

It would be incredibly ironic if the cloned Jesus turned out to become the anti-Christ. Honestly, I wouldn't see that one coming, and I'd very much have egg on my face while the cullings described in Revelation occur.

It wold make for a nice narrative though.
Man in his hubris decides to create the Son of God and predictably ends up with a false prophet.

 

[Winner]

It would be incredibly ironic if the cloned Jesus turned out to become the anti-Christ. Honestly, I wouldn't see that one coming, and I'd very much have egg on my face while the cullings described in Revelation occur.

It wold make for a nice narrative though.
Man in his hubris decides to create the Son of God and predictably ends up with a false prophet.

Write it on stone tablets and hide them somewhere in the desert. After we destroy our civilization one way or another, some wandering nomads descended from the survivors will find them and start a religion around them

 

[Traitorfish]

So it seems ironic to your people because of their general ignorance. Why should it be ironic to other people?

It's possible that you're making a cutting point here, but it would seem that I'm too afflicted with the general ignorance of my people to decipher it.

 

[Crezth]

So it seems ironic to your people because of their general ignorance. Why should it be ironic to other people?

Perspectival dissonance would be the point, you see.

 

[GhostWriter16]

To a christian view no.

A clone would be like an identical twin, identical genetically in terms of the physical body, but quite distinct from the other individual in terms of the soul. Furthermore as Jesus in christian theology is God the Son, who pre-existed his incarnation, a clone would lack completely the divine essence of Christ and as such could hardly be considered equivalent.

Indeed, I would agree with ti.s

What if you've got a split brain and one half of your brain believes in Jesus and the other half doesn't, and you die in that state

That might be a great way to troll God

Kidding, of course.

That confused me, so I'm sure God would have a way of dealing with it I trust him.

It would be incredibly ironic if the cloned Jesus turned out to become the anti-Christ. Honestly, I wouldn't see that one coming, and I'd very much have egg on my face while the cullings described in Revelation occur.

It would be very ironic indeed