What should we consider as exploits?

[Knowtalent]

And the maps for the last two games were absolutely awesome and surprising!

Thanks @leif erikson and I have to do quite a lot of playing testing to get good maps. Sometimes with some civs its easier, Turkey for example I have several saves that I enjoyed, This one presented some challenges that the others didn't.

 

[Monthar]

It looks like there's another production saving exploit that doesn't use shift-enter.

 

[Knowtalent]

well that is definitely an exploit

 

[Chrumo]

It looks like there's another production saving exploit that doesn't use shift-enter.

Wasn't that fixed in the September Update?

 

[Monthar]

I completely overlooked that in the patch notes.

• Fixed an issue where production on a unit could be transferred to something else by removing that unit from the production queue.

I just launched a game and tested this. Yes, this exploit was fixed.

 

[leif erikson]

I just launched a game and tested this. Yes, this exploit was fixed.

Thank you for the test!

 

[Monthar]

You're welcome.

 

[Monthar]

Here's an infinite settler/builder exploit. Skip to about 11 1/2 to 12 minutes in to see the exploit in action.

 

[kcd_swede]

Here's an infinite settler/builder exploit. Skip to about 11 1/2 to 12 minutes in to see the exploit in action.

yeah, that looks like an exploit alright.

 

[leif erikson]

Yes, certainly an exploit. Please do not use it.

 

[hhhhhh]

Currently AI pays a huge amount of money for Joint Wars. Do you think this should be considered as an exploit?

 

[leif erikson]

Let's play the next couple Game of the Month games and determine from write ups how big an effect there is. Hate to call things exploits without knowing the effect.

 

[hhhhhh]

Let's play the next couple Game of the Month games and determine from write ups how big an effect there is. Hate to call things exploits without knowing the effect.

OK. I think it was like this for a long time, that AI pays a huge amount when you offer Joint War (and you don't have to do anything, you can use this on a remote Civ) also if you are at war you can usually have almost every AI declare war on your enemy for 1 gold. I refrain from using these tricks a while ago. (But I'm still selling lots of diplomatic favors to AI... I hope there's a cap, something like every 30 turn you can only sell 30 diplomatic favor, that may change people's game a little, currently the only use of diplomatic favor is to get the player some gold.)

 

[JesseS]

OK. I think it was like this for a long time, that AI pays a huge amount when you offer Joint War (and you don't have to do anything, you can use this on a remote Civ) also if you are at war you can usually have almost every AI declare war on your enemy for 1 gold.

I've actually noticed this happening less often after the most recent patch. In my last game, I was only able to get ~6 gpt from friends/allies to declare a joint war and only about half of my friends/allies would join wars for 1 gold. Unfriendly players would not join for anything and the other friends/allies would demand a significant amount of gold.

 

[Eyswein]

I've been ranting about trading since Civ VI was released that could have some simple fixes. Most seem like intentional or lacking game design vs true exploits, but still can have a huge impact on the game.

For one, things that work per turn should only be allowed to be traded per turn. For example, I shouldn't be able to trade luxuries for one time gold payments. This let's you trade lux's and then immediately declare a surprise war after you just got all of their gold while restoring the luxury back to you instead of being gone for 30 turns. Alternately, I can offer a ton of GPT for a relic, etc. and then declare a surprise war to stop the payments after I have the relic.

Deity can be easier than lower levels in some ways due to the INSANE amount of gold other Civs will trade you for things. Setting a low percentage limit for the amount of gold civs will trade at higher levels would fix this. Something like 100% on King and below, then decreasing to E-50, I-25, D-10%. Even at 10% you could still get a ton of GPT on Deity.

 

[TheFinalChiTown]

Since the August update, bonus resources aren't being consumed when placing districts. You can still move a builder onto the district later and harvest it lol. Ok to do? Kind of hard to enforce a rule against it...

 

[hhhhhh]

Since the August update, bonus resources aren't being consumed when placing districts. You can still move a builder onto the district later and harvest it lol. Ok to do? Kind of hard to enforce a rule against it...

Seriously? You can harvest a resource on a district that's already placed? I know that district doesn't destroy the resource, but it's new to me that you can have a builder harvest it.

 

[TheFinalChiTown]

@hhhhhh Seriously. And the bonus resource still gives bonuses to adjacent tile improvements.

 

[hhhhhh]

@hhhhhh Seriously. And the bonus resource still gives bonuses to adjacent tile improvements.

I think it has been like that for a while, like if you have districts over a resource and you build a Hansa next to it, the Hansa do get +1 from that resource.

 

[ValleTomate]

I have a question about the rules, it says city gifting is an exploit for religious victory but is it still allowed for other VC like this ones SV?