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[andis-1]

From: Sweden
To: Finland
...And our reasons can be found from your threats earlier in this thread

 

[das]

Our reasons can be found from your diplomacy with Sweden.

You have incited a war of national liberation on linguistic pretext. (read: the Alanders won't like your anti-Swedish-language-stance)

 

[conehead234]

Hmm, these seems interesting, what good nations are left?

 

[WarlordMatt]

If nobody can find any good info sources for the naval stats, I'll just make up the navy sizes based on each nation's condition in 1919 and their naval history.

 

[Reno]

(read: the Alanders won't like your anti-Swedish-language-stance)

Ålanders in Swedish, Ahvenanmaalaiset in Finnish. they are too small group of people to actually do anything themselves.

So even if the Swedes and Russians invade, the Ålanders can't do anything.

 

[das]

If nobody can find any good info sources for the naval stats, I'll just make up the navy sizes based on each nation's condition in 1919 and their naval history.

A crazy idea - there was a Victoria mod (sadly I don't have it at all and Victoria on this comp...) beginning in 1919 (I think). They have a sub-forum in the Paradox forum. Maybe you can ask them about the ships?

 

[WarlordMatt]

A crazy idea - there was a Victoria mod (sadly I don't have it at all and Victoria on this comp...) beginning in 1919 (I think). They have a sub-forum in the Paradox forum. Maybe you can ask them about the ships?

That might perhaps work, although looking at the forums it looks like they haven't quite gotten to the military part for that mod yet.

 

[fantasmo]

A crazy idea - there was a Victoria mod (sadly I don't have it at all and Victoria on this comp...) beginning in 1919 (I think). They have a sub-forum in the Paradox forum. Maybe you can ask them about the ships?

'Twas a screwy mod, broke my Vicky. I don't believe they had much of the military done, I believe anything that was in game was just based on 1918 stats.

 

[WarlordMatt]

Kalthzar, I think I'm just gonna make up naval and airforce stats based on how I think each nation was generally doing in those departments during the 1919 time period.

 

[Kal'thzar]

A ok.

And if anyone complains, they can do the stats

 

[WarlordMatt]

Stats for below nations are done. As always, open to criticism and suggestions. However, unless you're Kal'thzar or someone knowledgeable about below nation's history like das or alex then I will probably ignore you.


Bolsheviks
Ruler: Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
Government: Communism
Capital: Moscow
Economy: Recession (0/7/0/0)
Industry: 35
Stability: Normal
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Admiring
Education: Tolerable
Army: 600,000 infantry (Inexperienced)
Navy: 6 destroyers, 4 cruisers (Green)
Air Force: 500 biplanes (Inexperienced)
Projects/Techs:
Notes: Currently at war with the various White Russian factions.

Kolchak's White Russians
Ruler: Aleksandr Vasiliyevich Kolchak
Government: Military junta
Capital: Ufa
Economy: Recession (0/7/0/0)
Industry: 15
Stability: Unstable
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Respecting
Education: Educated
Army: 200,000 infantry (Inexperienced)
Navy:
Air Force:
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

Denikin's White Russians
Ruler: Anton Ivanovich Denikin
Government: Military junta
Capital: Odessa
Economy: Recession (0/7/0/0)
Industry: 15
Stability: Unstable
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Respecting
Education: Educated
Army: 150,000 infantry (Inexperienced)
Navy: 5 destroyers (Green)
Air Force:
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

Weimar Republic
Ruler: Chancellor Friedrich Ebert
Government: Republic
Capital: Berlin
Economy: Severe Depression (0/5/0/15)
Industry: 50
Stability: Unstable
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Education: Well Educated
Army: 100,000 infantry (Trained)
Navy: 6 battleships, 6 cruisers, 12 destroyers (Tolerable)
Air Force:
Projects/Techs:
Notes: According to the Treaty of Versailles, Germany's military may not grow beyond the above listed numbers. They also have a huge debt in reperations to pay to the former Allied nations.

Portugal
Ruler: President António José de Almeida
Government: Republic
Capital: Lisbon
Economy: Failing (0/8/0/0)
Industry: 45
Stability: Unstable
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Tolerating
Education: Well Educated
Army: 50,000 infantry (Inexperienced)
Navy: 8 battleships, 16 cruisers, 50 destroyers (Tolerable)
Air Force:
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

Spain
Ruler: King Alfonso XIII
Government: Monarchy
Capital: Madrid
Economy: Failing (0/8/0/0)
Industry: 55
Stability: Unstable
Culture: Average
Confidence: Resentful
Education: Educated
Army: 120,000 infantry (Tolerable)
Navy: 14 battleships, 28 cruisers, 70 destroyers (Tolerable)
Air Force:
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

France
Ruler: Georges Clemenceau
Government: Republic
Capital: Paris
Economy: Failing (0/8/0/0)
Industry: 65
Stability: Normal
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Tolerating
Education: Well Educated
Army: 450,000 infantry (Tolerable)
Navy: 15 battleships, 26 cruisers, 65 destroyers, 20 submarines (Tolerable)
Air Force: 2,000 biplanes (Tolerable)
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

United Kingdom
Ruler: Prime Minister David Lloyd George
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: London
Economy: Failing (0/8/0/0)
Industry: 70
Stability: Normal
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Education: Well Educated
Army: 300,000 infantry (Trained)
Navy: 22 dreadnoughts, 18 battleships, 160 cruisers, 140 destroyers, 10 submarines (Trained)
Air Force: 2,500 biplanes (Trained)
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

Canada
Ruler: Prime Minister Robert Laird Borden
Government: Republic
Capital: Ottawa
Economy: Failing (0/8/0/0)
Industry: 55
Stability: Above Normal
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Admiring
Education: Well Educated
Army: 80,000 infantry (Trained)
Navy: 4 cruisers, 8 destroyers (Trained)
Air Force:
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

USA
Ruler: President Woodrow Wilson
Government: Republic
Capital: Washington, D.C.
Economy: Growing (0/12/0/0)
Industry: 80
Stability: Above Normal
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Education: Well Educated
Army: 530,000 infantry (Trained)
Navy: 15 battleships, 40 cruisers, 74 destroyers, 10 submarines (Trained)
Air Force: 2,000 biplanes (Trained)
Projects/Techs:
Notes:

 

[Insane_Panda]

Map is almost done, I just need to place cities, but im going to need das to do the russian zone for me, since it is waaay confusing.

 

[Kal'thzar]

Great

Might have this up by Friday (of course update would be a week after that :/

 

[das]

Btw, Kal'thzar added cavalry I think. Also, 500 biplanes sounds rather odd...

 

[das]

Map is almost done, I just need to place cities, but im going to need das to do the russian zone for me, since it is waaay confusing.

Well, post what you have now, and I will then do Russia...

 

[silver 2039]

I doubt people have as many as 2,000 biplanes. Was'nt it more like in the hundreds?

 

[Finmaster]

You have incited a war of national liberation on linguistic pretext. (read: the Alanders won't like your anti-Swedish-language-stance)

They will be happy for as long as Swedish language will be kept equal with Finnish. All Ålanders have traditionally been freed from army service (the area was demilitarized after Russians lost the Crimean war, and it still is in real-life!), so there shouldn't be much problems with untrustworthy Ålander military personell.

 

[das]

Meh, the Swedes still can declare a war to liberate the opressed Alander masses!

 

[WarlordMatt]

Regarding aircraft numbers, I was under the impression that thousands of planes were produced by many European nations during the war. According to Wikipedia, Britain produced 6,000 Sopwith Camels alone during the war.

 

[Insane_Panda]

Here you are Das - Do russia and then I'll plop in all the cities after. Thanks