Yes, lots, mostly stolen from someone else like bungalow (from India).
Still, I'll give you back ottoman if you return le weekend.
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Yes, lots, mostly stolen from someone else like bungalow (from India).
Still, I'll give you back ottoman if you return le weekend.
And if you cook the livestock, you now have to use a French word for the result.
And if you cook the livestock, you now have to use a French word for the result.
An early cultural exchange program. Not all the English were keen on it but William was a hard man to say no to.
jddods
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The bastard...
Disgustipated
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Interesting to me the word means different things in different regions. To me an Ottoman has always been a footstool. I'm American obviously, SouthWest region (if that matters). Of course the word was always strange to me. Why are we naming things after empires or nations. Don't get me started on china.
Ondolindë
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YES! China is the worse. So pretentious even. (But just in case, my China was made by the English potter Josiah Spode).
China makes sense; for centuries it had a monopoly on porcelain. I don't think Turkey had a similar monopoly on cushioned footstools, though. "Turkish coffee" is another one that's a bit of a misnomer (sure, they make/drink it in Turkey, but they also make coffee that way throughout the Middle East). I love Turkish coffee, so I keep meaning to get myself a cezve and finjani.
pgm123
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Guess on Turkish coffee: most of the Middle East was referred to as "Turkey" during the Ottoman Empire (which was the Turkish Empire). Lebanon might also get the name "Syria" and Israel-Palestine would be Syria or Palestine. But the Ottoman Empire as a whole was Turkey, so maybe that's why it was called Turkish coffee. (This wasn't consistent--check out immigration records for ultimate confusion)
Yes, I'm sure it's called Turkish because the Turks introduced it to Europe, where it's still quite popular in former Ottoman-controlled or -influenced areas. Ironically, as European nations also did periodically, the Turks banned coffeehouses because they were invariably dens of poets and radicals.
Isengardtom
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Off all the civs they added I think Ottomans are the ones I’m the least interested in
Unless they bring something interesting this time
I think is Civ 5 they did not
Unless they bring something interesting this time
I think is Civ 5 they did not
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I really enjoyed the Ottomans in Civ IV, but they were terribly disappointing in V. They have so much potential. I hope they live up to it again in Civ VI.
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Anyone else think "This Land is Mine" would be a perfect theme song for Dido? 
To add more confusion: Turkish coffee is called Mokka in german, but in Austria, Mokka is a "normal" (whatever that is differs around the world as well) black coffee without sugar. The name Mokka comes from the Yemenite city of Mocha, that also gave it's name to a coffee bean. In Italian, Mocaccino is an espresso with milk and chocolate. Also, what you get when you order a Turkish coffee varies very much in different Arabic countries: consistence, spices, amount of sugar.
Lord Lakely
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More like an early Elitist Program
The Elite in England spoke french for a long time, hence why the names of the most expensive meats are Francophone in origin, as opposed to the words for the livestock itself, which was tended by lower classes. Tea is super popular in Turkey as well. My mom went there last summer and was surprised by how popular Tea was (she herself is very much a tea drinker herself)
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Alexadamz
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As we are talking about beverages and words origins, I saw this really interesting article some days ago. It seems that the word for tea all around the world comes from the same word in chinese, but as it is spelled differently across different chinese ethnic groups, we have either words like with "t" or with "ch". https://qz.com/1176962/map-how-the-...iTqQeb_YFZSJMTuqw-hQN6jC9FdZ9bF1WkH6ANKwYn55Q
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Funny enough (but I don't find my sources to prove my point so maybe it's just a silly anecdote completely false), I red somewhere that the sound of the first letter of the Tea word can be linked to the way the country of this language discovered tea. If it was brought to the country first through land trade route (Silk Road), it's pronounced "ch-", but if it was by sea (East India Company), it's pronounced "t-".
Anecdotal so don't really consider it. It's just funny.
Alexadamz
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It is exactly what this article says. The same chinese word is spoken differently in different regions of China. If by land, the countries got tea from the chinese who spoke the tea the ch- way. Then the dutch brought tea to Europe by the sea from a region where they spoke the chinse word with the t- way. The only european language that speak tea the ch- way is portuguese, because they got tea from Macau, where they spoke the ch- way, hence tea in portuguese is chá and not té, like spanish, which is the closest language to portuguese.
Wingednosering
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I worked with a guy from Turkey that was quite proud that Turkey consumes more tea per person than the UK. I never fact checked him, but I believe it. He had about ten teas a day. Every coworker from Turkey I've had since is also a tea-fiend.
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