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what's your favorite and most hated neighbor civ?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by lionheart04, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. Phoenix1595

    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    Just in terms of neighbors, my favorites would be Morocco (friendly trading partner, doesn't expand aggressively), Songhai (pretty loyal, and not a super expansionist), China (I've never had a game where she's been treacherous, and again, she builds tall and not wide), and America (generally on good terms, and when so, Washington is a very helpful and loyal ally).

    I ABSOLUTELY hate Siam as a neighbor-- Backstab McGee will be friendly and then for no reason (even when CSS have been left alone), I have a horde of Nerusan Elephants in my backyard. I am also not fond of the Ottomans and Assyria, both of whom are wonderhorders and CS conquerors. They also LOVE to wreck havoc with global politics and set up factions that are ultimately against my interests, but pretend to be friendly (but always refrain from DoFs). They are Near East pains!

    Finally, I'm also ambivalent about Japan. Like the historically isolationist counterpart, Japan as a neighbor never gives me a lot of trouble, but neither does Japan warm up to me very quickly, either. It isn't until WC, when shared resos add up to some positive diplomatic points do we really bond as friendly neighbor states. At least I don't worry too much that he will backstab me though.
     
  2. isau

    isau Deity

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    Most hated: Rome. Rome is one of the few civs who actually has a decent chance of capturing my cities in the late middle ages/early renn if I am not careful. In a recent Immortal game as the Mayans Caesar showed up with around 11 unique melee units, 8 ballistas, 4 knights, and a great general. Caesar is also smarter than the other war mongers and doesn't go around generating the same levels of global hate.

    Most loved: Denmark aka the Great Destabilizer. Eric is a complete tool. He's a perfectly eager attack dog who also happens to be terrible at waging war. With or without my help he'll end up driving his nation into the ground, so I might as well help him along. He'll backstab for a nickel, rarely actually captures cities, but likes to plunder. Meanwhile if the two of us end up at war for a period of time--say, to capture back the cities he stole from other players--he rarely is very upset once we make peace. Once he is good and hated I like to gift him captured cities so that other civs declare on him, invade, and eat a war monger penalty themselves.
     
  3. funkymunky

    funkymunky Warlord

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    The last several games I've found Alexander to be a serious thorn in my side. If I meet him in the early game, he often declares war on me (and others too), and keeps repeating it, so I constantly gotta be on guard. Plus he seems pretty effective at conquest. But by the late game, he's allying every CS, and so often becomes a real threat for a diplo victory.

    The last game I played about 2/3 of CS were gone by end game, either because of Venice annexing them or because I kept fighting Alex and taking them to stop his diplo victory.

    I think my 2nd most disliked neighbor is Dido. She also is a warmonger early (odd because it says she hates warmongers), but doesn't seem quite as effective as Alex. Alex seems to have a better AI for strategy, but Dido is too often a nuisance as well and is always out trying to ban every lux I have, so I have to keep giving her sweat trades to stop that if she gets strong in the WC.,
     
  4. templeguard

    templeguard Chieftain

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    Most loved- Arabia. Harun never seems to do ANYTHING in particular, and just at the time his bonus oil comes around, I can usually just take the cities from him that I want.

    Most hated- Mongolia. EVERY time I end up near them, I immediately build double the # of units I would normally, because that inevitable DoF followed by DoW 2 turns later happens EVERY GAME.
     
  5. Dogmouth

    Dogmouth King

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    How funny is it that the Native North American civs are notorious land grabbing expansionists? Reverse manifest destiny!
     
  6. Scott Jegg

    Scott Jegg Warlord

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    Augustus is a scum bag. He'll try and schmooze you one turn to go to war with someone, then backstab the following turn and declare on you. He's also one of the civs that auto declare war if you build cities too fast, and that's something I hate.

    Montezuma hate too. I never find him to be much of a threat, and I'm happy that he's someone I can take cities from without anyone else caring about because he's such an aggro tool, but I hate having to wage war in the jungle to get his cities.
     
  7. Qoma

    Qoma Warlord

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    Rome and Russia always seem to play friendly and then backstab, yet they are rarely a real threat it seems like. Certainly an annoyance though... Persia too, though slightly more dangerous for some reason.
     
  8. secon

    secon Chieftain

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    favorite has got to be boudicca because she never does anything and is generally a complete lump. denmark and polynesia are usually pretty ineffective too.
    most hated are definiely ghandi, alexander, hiawatha and attilla because no matter what i do they will always attack me. i'm starting to add shaka to that list as i play more BNW
     
  9. mageta621

    mageta621 Chieftain

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    Tell me about it. In my last game, I played as Portugal and spawned on the continent with (in order of discovering them): Attila, Genghis, Shaka, Montezuma, Caesar, Ashurbanipal. I was wedged b/w Attila and Genghis and knew there was no use doing anything besides building the military-industrial machine.

    People I like:
    Harun al-Rashid and Ahmad al-Mansur for the reasons everyone else described.
    Napoleon because he almost always is my ally. Go figure.

    People I dislike:
    Elizabeth and Oda Nobunaga - every game with these two they hate me, especially Elizabeth. I cannot recall a single game with Elizabeth where she did not denounce me and/or we fought a war.
    Siam and Alexander - Always have to end up fighting them just so I can get some damn City-States, and Siam spawns in an inordinate number of my games too.
     
  10. yasinbin

    yasinbin Chieftain

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    favourite: napoleon. enrico, gandhi, that arab guy.
    Dislike: soshone, maria.
    well you all know the reasons for it....
     

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