when you demand a tribute

[HIEROPHANT]

i have noticed there is some sort of calulations on how much you get in money from the civ beside the fact the more they have the more they give but if your reputation is atrious if they do give you money the fraction of money you get chages like you get 12 or 25 gold when you would get with spotless repution maybe 300 or 400 gold.

 

[duke o' york]

I know that for some people demanding tribute is a good source of extra cash, but I never bother with it myself unless I want to make someone declare war on me when I'm in a democracy. It is possibly the best way of guaranteeing senate backing no matter who the opposition are.

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[spycatcher34]

I have never noticed this feature sounds interesting I will have to see if it is true.

 

[thedirk]

I, like duke, use the tribute function to provoke war when I can't attack due to governmental reasons. Usually I have good success employing this strategy.

I remember one game however when I was trying to get the Spanish of declare war, and was demanding tribute every turn. Every turn they would give me 25 gold, smile and wave. After about 10 turns I was getting tired of waiting for them to declare war, I had all my military units lined up at the border ready to go. But they just kept shelling out 25 gold each turn. Demanding that they withdraw their troops didn't work either so I was forced to take their money and finance a war against the Russians instead. I returned later with a different govt and blew the Spanish to pieces.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

This Duke, like the other Duke, uses it to provoke war. Then once you start taking their cities, you still get their gold.

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Remember the golden rule, he with the most gold rules.

 

[starlifter]

posted July 18, 2001 08:08 AM

I know that for some people demanding tribute is a good source of extra cash, but I never bother with it myself unless I want to make someone declare war on me when I'm in a democracy. It is possibly the best way of guaranteeing senate backing no matter who the opposition are.

If you are in a democracy (or a republic), it is not posible to demand tribute.

You can, however, make an ally and "request a gift from you, our gracious allies". You'd better be weaker when you do it though, else they will make a demand and likely end teh alliance anyway. The key is to be generatint lots of science, and have a couple more advances than the ally. They will demand an advance, you give it, and then request a gift... if they have the excess money, most civs will give it to you. Certain civs, like the Carthagenians, often won't tribute you even when they can afford it, however.

So bottom line: In a Democracy or Republic, demanding tribute is not an option

. But gifts from allies can be significant, especially in an OCC game!

 

[starlifter]

posted July 18, 2001 01:46 PM

I, like duke, use the tribute function to provoke war when I can't attack due to governmental reasons. Usually I have good success employing this strategy.

Try using an expendable freight/caravan/weak ship to tempt the AI civ into a sneak attack. They also like to attack settlers/engineers in their city radii. When the sneak attack comes, kill all their units, and pre-position your pieces to enter their empty cities (or use dips/spies). You can then rip through their entire empire before your pieces come face to face with an enemy and move, which will trigger contact and usually, interference by the Senate.

 

[Cunobelin Of Hippo]

Yes, it's a very easy way to piss of the AI. Plant a caravan beside one of their 'attack' units (bonus points if you trap it against a shoreline,etc.)and wait for death. If they demand you withdraw a military unit, say yes, but send it right back in! They won't tell you to leave politely for more than a couple of times.

Oh, and change your game.txt so that your sentence reads like. "Hey b****, gimme my money fo' I shove my howitzer up your @$$!". It's terribly satasfying

And if they demand cash from you..."Suck Rifle, punk", "Kiss my @$$", or "What you say, boy??"....

 

[gatomarado]

Speaking off topic... a good way to go in war in a democracy, avoiding the senate is to make an alliance with a weak and conflictuos civ.
Example:
You're the Cartaginians and want to declare war to the Persian. You make an alliance with the weak civ of mongols (that are at war with the persian) and when you talk with the mongols they will ask you to declare war on the persians.

I hope this been useful for all.

Hey Cunobelin Of Hippo! I liked the ideia to change the TXT file and make some new speaches!!

 

[HIEROPHANT]

that is a major reason why i dont like to use demoracy or republic because you can not demand a tribute and if you steal during peace or anyone that damage reputaion the govt always seems to fall.

 

[starlifter]

posted July 19, 2001 12:46 PM
that is a major reason why i dont like to use demoracy or republic because you can not demand a tribute and if you steal during peace or anyone that damage reputaion the govt always seems to fall.

True, you cannot demand tribute in a Democracy, but if you are running the democracy correctly, even a single freight delivered properly can be 4 to 10 tributes!

Your government will always fall, if your spy is caught in the act and you'r at peace (or allied) with someone... that's just a minor adjustment you should make in your tactical conduct of policy. If you really have to do something, like nuke 15 cities with spies, then just declare a tactical revolution and do it

. Assuming you have the SoL, you'll only lose one turn of taxes and science. Use an Oedo year if you don't have the SoL.

Democracy take thinking and planning, and a slight refinement of tactical execution. That said, there is no question that Fundy allows "easier" conduct of a war, espicially a meanering, unfocused and/or "sloppy" war. Practically all diplomacy can be disregared in a Fundy war, too. But then that's not much of a challenge against the hapless AI

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