Which civs you DONT like the most

[ghostbuster]

I have seen plenyt of threads of which civ do you like best, well I am just curious, which civs DONT you like. What is the civ that you find is just so terrible its a waste of a civ spot.

For me I think its the americans, I think their late UU and GA is just too terrible even though they have very complementary civ traits.

 

[norwegianviking]

Americans stink, that's almost the only one I'm NOT willing to play as

 

[Teabeard]

Anyone which is expansionist or seafaring (especially the Portuguese). Those two traits are very map dependant.

 

[Pounder]

I took a look at my hall of fame and the least played was a tie between Babylon and Portugal. I played them only once each.

I dislike the American Civ as well, I think it should be re-worked or replaced, I mean their background diplomacy music is the native drumming. They are not culturally linked properly. I would have preferred the Cherokee, would be a better North American Civ.

To bad a Civ couldn't start the game with a settler on a boat, it would add to the game maybe by allowing some of the later Civs to fit in better.

I know the game is not intended to duplicate history, it is to play an alternate time line, and it is fun to play your own nationality sometimes, but there are many Civs that didn't make it to the game that maybe would have been a better fit culturally.

 

[Longasc]

I hate Bismarck. He is aggressive, he does not trade for GPT with me, and I often end up in war with him, in my last two games at least.

On the other hand, at least he is an interesting enemy keeping me busy.

 

[LLXerxes]

to play vs or as...
I don't enjoy playing as the Iroquois, Aztecs, Portaguese, Koreans, Zulu and some others..

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

...to play against: Sumeria. By a wide margin. Hard to get rid off early, even harder to get rid off later. Any COM Civ with a medium aggression level; regardless of second trait/UU, those Civs are (nearly) unstoppable once they start to run away - nobody will argue the 3MC sucks, nevertheless Hittites do very well in the late game frequently.
...to play: I utterly hate early Ancient GAs. Zulus, Aztecs, Incans, Mayans, Babylonians are my least favorites. I prefer a completely avoidable UU like the F-15 largely to Spear/Archer/Scout replacements. NMs, Hoplites, Enkidus are not that bad, since those are useful until much later, or like 3MC at least until you can have a better Gov. And, for unknown reasons I simply do really bad with India as well.

 

[NankingDan]

Hittites: utterly terrible. Awkward unit and trait combo
English: two traits that you hardly ever notice working, awkward naval unit
Indians: I've never seemed to be able to take off with these guys...I'm always lagging behind as India
Sumerians: A very good civ, but waaaaaaay too easy for my style of play (peaceful builder with short, resource-seizing wars of opportunity). Where's the challenge?
Americans:good traits, but a useless modern unit.

 

[Richard Cribb]

My Raspberry Award goes to Portugal; rather contradictory traits, not so fantastic UU, at least not for my style.
Other candidates:
Hittites: In real life a civilization I am fascinated by (I am a historian), in Civ3 usually an uphill struggle. Akward traits, mediocre UU.
Spain: Yes, I have already been rebuked by DocTsiolkovski in a former thread for this, apparently it is one of the best for the 20k culture victory. However for somebody on my level (I have played for about half a year and am now usually doing my damage at monarch) with the accordingly lack of sophistication that sort of considerations are secondary. I don't like the Conquistador, I think Spain should have the Tercio as UU.
Rome: Why the heck aren't they militaristic and industrious? Then I would gladly play them. As it is now, I have yet to get anywhere with them.
Korea: I wish they were good, but you can wish in one hand and spit in the other....The few times I tried, I lagged too far behind to have a decent chance to catch up, and their UU confuses me.
America: I will probably like them when my playing skills are improving, right now I fail to see the charm about Honest Abe. And that UU is a waste.
Worst opponents:
Iroquis: A real scientifical and economical powerhouse and with a great UU. I have lost quite a lot of games to them.
Sumeria: Also quite good, great traits and due to their UU the AI are capable of expanding very quickly with this civ.
Zulus: Picks up lots of techs early and usually disposes over a tremendously big army.Which they like to bully me with.
England: In my games, for some reason, they are always very strong.I like to play them myself on archipelagos, but why they are so powerful even on pangea is something that puzzles me a bit...

 

[James I]

I can find points of agreeance in most of above posts.......

I have to say that Celtic no shirt swordsman makes the Celts a pain for me..... they turn up in the most unusual places and demand things where you can't risk saying no.

i'd underline sumeria about 3 or 4 times........

in my current multiplayer game my neighbours are Sumeria, Germany and Persia.....with Rome chucked in for good measure......

This could be bad

I love a challenge

 

[The Last Conformist]

Scandinavians. Annoying Viking theme, ridiculous city list.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

England - I don't like the trait combo and a horrible UU
America - Horrible UU, but the traits are alright

 

[Stoo.W]

I never play as the US (they're crap),
England aren't as bad as you all make out: you can make a shed load of cash when your playing as England. Money = power kids!!
I despise playing against the zulu (ridiculously aggressive) and the sumerians have size 20 cities before ive even found them (gits!). I like the scandanavians though, they are usually pretty pathetic to play aainst, but they're awsome when you play with them (a great UU).

 

[Sukenis]

Wow, I would rank America and a top Civ (for me to play). In fact, I try not to play them because they are just "too easy" to use. I guess opinions do vary...

I hate playing as the Zulu. A defensive uni turned into a (weak) offensive UU just does not work out well for me. They would not be that bad, but the trait combo also is not a strong one for my style of play. I would much rather play the Mongols if I want those traits as well.

Babylon also annoys me. I do well with them, but feel like I am forces to lay low and not attack until I get all my cheap buildings done. More a fault for how I play them, but never-the-less, I dislike them.

Aztecs used to be my civ. I loved them to death (also like the real Aztec civ). They lost religous and had th Jag weakened and now I can not stand them. I understand why they were changed, but now they just suck (when I use them at least).

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

Hittites: utterly terrible. Awkward unit and trait combo
English: two traits that you hardly ever notice working, awkward naval unit

That p.o.v. shines through several posts here...sure, everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but that is plain simply wrong:
England and Hittited both have traits that complement each others extremely well. England drowns in gold (=research) compared to any other Civ in Despotism, and Hittites are the Kings of 'Settler' popping - even far away towns make more than 1spt under Despo. COM really shines in the late game, but SEA (half-priced Offshore Platforms and ComDocks!) is great there as well.
Agreed, the 3MC is crap. But the MoW? Surely one of the better UUs - if you have need for any ships at all! Sure, for Chieftain the Panzer may rule, but on Deity, I prefer MoW.
And, starting with Alphabet and Pottery is the best tech combo around.

 

[thetrooper]

I have to agree with Doc. England traits: perfect synergy!

Check the article written by Zardnaar:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_britannia.shtml

And: I don´t like to play militaristic/expansionist civs. I don´t like to play against Sumeria, China and Germany.

 

[citizen001]

Russia is the worst! worst civ traits, and worstleader head. but what gets me the most is the bad timing of the UU.

 

[Darkness]

Russia is the worst! worst civ traits, and worstleader head. but what gets me the most is the bad timing of the UU.

What's wrong with the Cossack?
It's a good UU. Basically a defense-empowered cavalry (so you'll lose far less of them during AI couterattacks), which comes in the late MA, and the MA is the best time for a UU, IMHO...

 

[Elgalad]

Civs I never play: India, Zulu, Spain, Russia, Babylon, Korea

Civs I always end up spanking/eliminating when I play against them in single player: Russia (why does she Always pick a fight with me? Silly Cate, I Always bury You.), England, Celts, Arabs, Ottomans, Egypt, China


-Elgalad

 

[mevlin]

I never play as the Incans, Byzantines, Romans, Mongols, Zulus or Hittites. Not because I don't like them especially it's just their stuff doesn't suit my game.

I hate playing against the Zulu, Japanese, German or the Ottomans. All of them love to go to war with me and twice I've been pipped at the turn limit on points by the Japanese!!

Cool thread