which is better: Mac or PC?

[mrt144]

Why I like Macs:

Everything is designed to work together & requires little setup, configuration or troubleshooting.

Why I like PC's:

Customization & cheaper price.

The only real downside to PC's that I see is that you have a computer made up of a mish-mash of parts from a dozen different manufacturers which may or may not be compatible with one another & all require a dozen drivers that need to be compatible with your OS in order for it to work. It can be a real pain in the ass to get a system working properly.



How dare an art class use computers & software that is best for graphic design!

Are you running Win98? This simply isn't the case anymore in the current environment.

 

[Zelig]

That encompasses what % of PC purchases vs. at least 50% of Mac purchases.

That doesn't make Macs bad, it just makes Mac users dumb, and the average non-Mac user really isn't that smart either.

How dare an art class use computers & software that is best for graphic design!

No 64-bit Photoshop for Mac make Macs an awful choice for any heavy photoshop users.

 

[Aegis]

Are you running Win98? This simply isn't the case anymore in the current environment.

I use XP Pro.

What does the OS have to do with the motherboard being compatible with the processor, etc?

If you were referencing the drivers, there are drivers that are compatible with Vista, but not XP. I know this because my PC came with Vista, but I wiped it & installed XP. I had to force-feed some drivers because they were designed for Vista but were incompatible with XP.

 

[bob bobato]

PCs because I'm gay.

 

[bhsup]

I cannot believe nobody has linked to good ol' Hunter's diatribe yet.


Link to video.

 

[Zelig]

I use XP Pro.

What does the OS have to do with the motherboard being compatible with the processor, etc?

Well, ~99% are prebuilt, so hardware compatibility is less of an issue than with Macs.

If you were referencing the drivers, there are drivers that are compatible with Vista, but not XP. I know this because my PC came with Vista, but I wiped it & installed XP. I had to force-feed some drivers because they were designed for Vista but were incompatible with XP.

What's your point here? If you bought a Mac with Mac OS X and installed Mac OS 9 on it, you'd have trouble too...

 

[mrt144]

I use XP Pro.

What does the OS have to do with the motherboard being compatible with the processor, etc?

If you were referencing the drivers, there are drivers that are compatible with Vista, but not XP. I know this because my PC came with Vista, but I wiped it & installed XP. I had to force-feed some drivers because they were designed for Vista but were incompatible with XP.

I was referencing the drivers and your mileage may vary with after market changes. Big shock.

 

[Darth_Pugwash]

Apple marketting alone makes PC better than Mac

I used to think like this, until I came across this thing:

Stare into the pastel shaded horror

Now I don't know what to believe! At least these PC ads seem less widespread than the Mac ones. When it comes to terrible computer ads though, the eighties predictably have modern ads trumped:

Windows 386

 

[Aegis]

Well, ~99% are prebuilt, so hardware compatibility is less of an issue than with Macs.

Pre-built =\= everything works fine. "Pre-built" just means they assembled the hodge-podge of parts together before they shipped it. I was speaking more on upgrading & changing out parts on my own.

It's more of an issue than with Macs because all Mac hardware is engineered & built by Apple. You know that it works together without having to do hours of research. Macs are obviously not as customizable as PCs because of this. I prefer PC's because I have cheaper options and more of them. My only issue with PC's is the accompanying headache in getting everything to work again.

What's your point here? If you bought a Mac with Mac OS X and installed Mac OS 9 on it, you'd have trouble too...

Why would anyone go from OSX to OS9? o.O

Vista is a POS compared to XP. Color me crazy, but I would like my software/hardware to be compatible with the best OS available to me.

I was referencing the drivers and your mileage may vary with after market changes. Big shock.

Dell went from selling computers with Vista back to selling them with XP. Just because an OS is new does not mean it's better than a previous version, nor that it will be more widely used. I look forward to Windows 7 coming out, but I am contemplating on making a Mac my next purchase because of past problems with PC's.

 

[Zelig]

Pre-built =\= everything works fine. "Pre-built" just means they assembled the hodge-podge of parts together before they shipped it. I was speaking more on upgrading & changing out parts on my own.

But upgrading or changing parts on a Mac is much more difficult than a PC, you're far less likely to have working drivers.

It's more of an issue than with Macs because all Mac hardware is engineered & built by Apple.

Nope, if you put a PC together with the same parts from newegg that are used in Macs, you can run Mac OS on it.


You're only point seems to be that pre-built Macs are easier than building your own computers... which isn't an issue if you get a pre-built PC.

Why would anyone go from OSX to OS9? o.O

Same reason someone would go from Vista to XP.

Vista is a POS compared to XP.

Nope, Vista is quite a good operating system, XP is brutal compared to linux, Mac OS, Vista, Win7, FreeBSD, Solaris, etc.

 

[Aegis]

You're only point seems to be that pre-built Macs are easier than building your own computers... which isn't an issue if you get a pre-built PC.

I've seen pre-built PC's not work well at all out of the box. Your assertion that pre-built PC's work great out of the box is not true all of the time.

What I tend to do is either:

a) build a computer from scratch
or
b) purchase a low-end base model & upgrade it manually for less money than if I had purchased it pre-built.

Nope, Vista is quite a good operating system, XP is brutal compared to linux, Mac OS, Vista, Win7, FreeBSD, Solaris, etc.

I have trouble believing that an OS (Vista) which requires 3x+ as much RAM as XP to run as efficiently as XP is somehow "better." I prefer XP because it is not the memory/resources hog that Vista is & I have no need for 64-bit applications.

But upgrading or changing parts on a Mac is much more difficult than a PC, you're far less likely to have working drivers.

One reason for me to purchase a Mac is I wouldn't feel it necessary to upgrade one. "Upgrading" would be purchasing a new Mac.

Purchasing a pre-built PC does not give me the same confidence that purchasing a Mac would. I've seen/heard of too many PC's with problems out of the box. Purchasing a pre-built PC would also put it in the same ballpark with Mac prices. If I then had to choose between a PC & Mac, I would go with the Mac, because it is a known quantity.

 

[mrt144]

Dell went from selling computers with Vista back to selling them with XP. Just because an OS is new does not mean it's better than a previous version, nor that it will be more widely used. I look forward to Windows 7 coming out, but I am contemplating on making a Mac my next purchase because of past problems with PC's.

I never said that Vista was better than XP.

 

[Aegis]

I never said that Vista was better than XP.

You said the market changed. I pointed out that the market changed again: back to the way it was.

 

[mrt144]

You said the market changed. I pointed out that the market changed again: back to the way it was.

Why did you expect things to work flawlessly when you rolled back though? I take it you've never heard the term "after market" in your life before.

 

[Kerozine]

Spoiler :

I cannot believe nobody has linked to good ol' Hunter's diatribe yet.


Link to video.

Wooooooooooow. It's been years since I seen that video.

 

[Aegis]

Why did you expect things to work flawlessly when you rolled back though? I take it you've never heard the term "after market" in your life before.

It's not after market. Both were being used in the market concurrently.

 

[mrt144]

It's not after market. Both were being used in the market concurrently.

You haven't heard the term "after market" used have you?

 

[Aegis]

You haven't heard the term "after market" used have you?

Apparently not. I bow down to your condescending superiority. I fail to see how it's after market if both OS' are offered on the same machine.

 

[Cobalt Command]

I use a Mac; I have always used a Mac; I will probably always use a Mac.

 

[otago]

My wife has a Mac, I have stayed with a PC running PClinuxos and XP in dual boot, very rarely boot into XP now.

A couple of my wife's friends were having hassles with their new PCs that had Vista, flattened the hard drives and loaded PClinuxos on both with no windows OS at all.

No more having to get rid of a virus on their computers or having their grand kids going to game sites and loading the machines with rubbish.