Which unrevealed civ you want to turn out most "right"?

[isau]

I want a perfect implementation for the Aztecs, with a unique District that replaces the standard Religious District. Too many amazing possibilities there.

 

[bite]

I want a perfect implementation for the Aztecs, with a unique District that replaces the standard Religious District. Too many amazing possibilities there.

Or indeed actual floating gardens that are built on the map, that would look great too

 

[Sagax]

Russia without the tundra bias, and with more attention paid to its cultural achievements. Seriously, with all the talk about how Firaxis wants to make the civs feel different from the past iterations, it's about time for Russia to step away from the "expansion-resources-more (red) hammers" playstyle.

 

[Kurtbob]

Germany - The Devs really need to figure out what they want the German civ to encompass. In V, Germany represented the 'uncivilized' peoples of Central Europe (UA), the Holy Roman Empire and medieval Germany(Landsknechts and the Hanse), and Modern Germany (Bismark and the Panzer). Quite encompassing...too encompassing IMO. Germany was just hard to role-play and felt bland.

This time around, if Germany is included, I think they should omit any uniques from antiquity. They should just focus on Medieval to Modern. I would prefer Germany not being represented as Prussia...sorry Fredrick. I would like either an HR Emperor (Otto or Barbarossa) or Bismark again. Why? Diplomacy. Both HR Emperors and Bismark can have their leader ability focus on Diplomacy, specifically relations with CSs.

I don't think Germany should have a u-boat unit since I don't particularly like the idea of Germany being a naval civ. The Panzer can come back, but other land/air units are welcome...though I'm not sure if I would care for a Zepplin UU

I just want a Germany I can role-play.

 

[Acken]

I want Sumer. Can't have a game called Civilization without the first one of them. Or at least the first we know a lot about.

Charlemagne would be cool too.

 

[Krajzen]

Leaders I'd like to see instead of old, tired ones...
England - Queen Victoria (and Redcoat unit)
Rome - Marcus Aurelius/Hadrian (cultural bias) or Traian (expansive bias)
Germany - Frederick the Great
France - Louis XIV or Henrique IV
Greece - Pericles
Mongolia - Kubilai Khan
Persia - Nader Shah (of Islamic era btw, not Achaemenid - unique unit Qizilbashi)
Portugal - Henrique the Navigator (exploration bias)
Spain - Philippe II
Russia - Empress Elizaveta Petrovna (ruled succesfully in years 1740 - 1762, "she remains one of the most popular Russian monarchs due to her strong opposition to Prussian policies and her decision not to execute a single person during her reign" - interesting divergence from boring civ cliche of "brutal russia")
Netherlands - Queen Wilhelmina
India - anybody but Gandhi there are many male emperors such as Chandragupta Maurya, Ashoka, Shivaji Bosle, as well as female heroines/queens such as Lakshmibai...

Arabs - Shajar al-Durr would be amazing. She was of the same dynasty as Saladin, one of very few powerful queens in Arab history, repelled Seventh Crusade on Egypt, and Arab female leader would be very interesting.

Ottomans - Roxolana. Well Roxolana would be very unorthodox choice... but she is no more inappropriate as Ottoman ruler than Theodora as Byzantine one More conservative choice: Mehmed II
Aztecs - Tlacaelel
Zulu - Cetshwayo (although I'd prefer no Zulu at all )
Ethiopia - emperor Gelawdewos (defender against Adal-Ottoman alliance) or Menelik (defender against Italians)
Korea - Queen Seondeok
Maya, Inca, Brazil, Babylon, Indonesia, Byzantium - I have no competence to speak for them (and yes I think they will all return)

 

[Red Menace]

Byzantines for an X-pac civ, I love the Byzantines, and they were trash in Civ V. you had to do something really bad to make me NOT want to play the Byzantines.

for vanilla, Inca. in Civ V they were great I loved them in civ IV, im hoping they go all out with crazy awesome Unique's, Im really looking forward to it.

Portugal - Henrique the Navigator (exploration bias)

this would be awesome

 

[Zaarin]

Byzantines for an X-pac civ, I love the Byzantines, and they were trash in Civ V. you had to do something really bad to make me NOT want to play the Byzantines.

That's funny, because the Byzantines were the only European or two UU civ I was willing to play as in Civ5 because of their awesome religious bonus. But I admit it didn't fit the Byzantines all that well. I hope the UA returns under someone else, though--perhaps Armenia.

 

[ehecatzin]

Aztecs - Tlacaelel

This one caught my eyes, no, please not Tlacaelel, despite being responsible for the implementation of the Garland wars, he never ruled, and its also the reason we know so little of the Toltecs (he burned every codex he could find contradicting the "official" Aztec history).

There are other potential Aztec leader tho, Ahuizotl, Cuauhtemoc, or you could even push it to Nezahualcoyotl, while not being Aztec himself was instrumental in founding the triple alliance (which was the Aztec Empire really).

 

[manim]

well Churchill would be great for England and im really happy with theodore
and well...persia. i really dont care what ruler but i dont personaly like xerxes if their gonna go with Achaemenid i prefer cyrus. but i think its gonna be more fun to go with different dynesty like sasanid(khusro/shapur) or better safavid(ismail/abbas).i guess do care after all

 

[Cyon]

If they include Sweden (as a DLC they should no be one of the 18!) please no phrases like 'Välkommen till snökonungens rike' (welcome to the snow kings realm) that was to silly.

the 2 UU civs were boring in civ V but that will be better with the 4+ uniques in Civ Vi.

And I will be very disappointed if the Zulus are in and Kongo or Ashanti is not. I'm not that worried that they would portray those civs in a bad way of they included though.

 

[Xen]

I'd like to see Germany under Frederick II (fine, he was king of Prussia, but it's close enough for Civ IV and it's close enough for me) that is at least as focused on culture and philosophy as it is on warmongering.

I really don't want to see the same old Greeks under Alexander with a weird mix of classical and hellenistic elements. I'd like to see Pericles, Cleisthenes, or Themistocles lead the way (it should definitely be an Athenian, please not a Spartan) and have the civ be culturally focused, with perhaps a secondary naval focus. I would also like something recognizing the Greek invention of democracy. Perhaps a UA allowing them to access this government type before other civs can?

Generally, I want a Greek civ that recognizes that this remarkable people laid the foundation for Western philosophy, art, literature, drama, science, and political theory. That's a lot to capture in one civ, but I think the developers should at least take a stab at it. The Greeks in Civ V reflected none of that.

To be fair to the ancient Greeks though -Athenians included just as much as any- the classical Greeks achieved all those things on top of (or perhaps even due to) being a very militant warrior culture. Not representing the militancy of the culture is every bit of a disservice as not representing the cerebral aspects of it.

 

[Dragonflow]

A more modern take on England would be nice. So far they've always been based on 18th century England with their ships and redcoats. Maybe a bigger focus on the 19/20th with dreadnoughts, factories and Victoria/Churchill would be nice.

For Germany I'd like them to do the reverse and drop the 19/20th century and go all out middle-ages. Barbarossa, Teutonic Knights, Hanse, city-states and religion focus come to mind.

 

[munizao]

I'd like to see Germany (as played by the AI) start as a cluster of city-states, and turn into a proper civ around the industrial era.

 

[CaiusDrewart]

To be fair to the ancient Greeks though -Athenians included just as much as any- the classical Greeks achieved all those things on top of (or perhaps even due to) being a very militant warrior culture. Not representing the militancy of the culture is every bit of a disservice as not representing the cerebral aspects of it.

Oh, I agree, they were a very warlike people. Many of them thought that achieving glory on the battlefield was just about the highest calling a life could have, and the Homeric epics--by far the most important texts in Greek culture--are all about fighting (though they take a somewhat ambivalent view of it). A handful of battles they won had huge repercussions for world history. And they were pretty innovative in their manner of fighting. The hoplite should (and will, I presume) be in the game as a UU.

But then, more or less everyone in the ancient world was militaristic and a warrior culture--the Romans were, the Celts were, the Persians were, the Germanic tribes were, the Etruscans were, etc. Greek martial prowess certainly deserves a nod, but it is the other aspects of Greek culture that were more unique, I would say.

 

[Haig]

Scaramanga: love your Persian empire idea.

I think Civ 6's America gives us good example that they can really surprise us nicely. Also China sounds damn fun.

 

[SMcM]

So I'm just gunna go out there and say I would be wildly surprised if Churchill ever turns up in a civ game again. He is really not a popular figure in the former British empire anymore, not in small part due to his rampant racism and his involvement in all sorts of dodgy things in colonial Africa.

If England is in I could see Alfred the great or Rochard the Lionheart. Or if Britain is in, maybe Victoria or for an out there choice D'Israeli

A James or a Charles would be great fun though

'Rampant racist' is a pretty serious allegation. By racism, are you referring to his views on Islam or Hinduism? Or his criticism of Indian culture leading to people having lots of children, claiming Indians had inflicted the famine which killed so many on themselves? Because the religious criticism cannot be bundled together with racism, regardless of whether or not you think it is fair, and the latter opinion would seem to be a statement of an unfortunate truth of the time; India suffered famine for much the same reason China did later on; too many people.

Even if you disagree on this matter, and you feel that the mismanagement of the British colonial administrators was to blame for famine in India, then surely you can still see that this is not racism. Other remarks he made which you might cite as examples of 'racial hatred' are normally examples of 'casual racism'; the sort of thing that never used to be considered a problem; Churchill was a product of his time. I feel that you are perhaps being a little to politically correct.

But yes, you are right in pointing out that Churchill is no longer very popular. Not only do some feel the way you do about him, but many others dislike him for other reasons. Many see his decision to bomb Dresden to warn off Russian advances as having been one of the reasons for the Cold War, and excessive and cruel considering the war had effectively already been won. He has become an icon to the sort of British nationalists who go out in the street beating up ethnic minorities, the sort of people who the man who recently murdered Jo Cox would have been hanging around with.

Yes, I would highly doubt Churchill will be making a return, and if he were to, you could be sure that there would be many complaints, and realizing their mistake, developers would possibly have to release a second England civ with a different leader as DLC.

 

[Maxattack]

I think France will get François I, or Catherine de Medicis if they absolutely want a female leader.

UA : something with Tourism
UU : ?
UD : Chateau => boosts Culture and GPP
LUA : Patronage : can give gold to snatch a GP generated by another civ
LUU : some sort of Cannon replacement ?
Agenda : dislikes anyone from his continent who has settled a continent he hasn't OR likes people who have generated more Great People than he has, dislikes those who have generated less

If not, then I guess we'll have Louis XIV...

 

[Scaramanga]

In terms of big personalities I don't think it gets much bigger than Napoleon for those unfamiliar to the series.

France
Leader Napoleon
Historical Agenda Vive la revolution - Dislikes those with different governments
Civilization Ability City of Light- major tourism bonus in the capital
Leader Ability Can build the Voltigeur Unit, combat bonus against land units of different governments
Unique Unit Musketeer
Unique Building Chateau

 

[Acken]

I think France will get François I, or Catherine de Medicis if they absolutely want a female leader.

UA : something with Tourism
UU : ?
UD : Chateau => boosts Culture and GPP
LUA : Patronage : can give gold to snatch a GP generated by another civ
LUU : some sort of Cannon replacement ?
Agenda : dislikes anyone from his continent who has settled a continent he hasn't OR likes people who have generated more Great People than he has, dislikes those who have generated less

If not, then I guess we'll have Louis XIV...

Catherine de medicis is not really known outside of France. Evenn Jeanne dArc who never lead the country would have a better chance to be there.

Really doubt they wont go for a famous King though like Francois 1 or Louis 14. Napoleon did civ5. They could put CDG too I guess like in civ4.

Dont really know who else an american company would chose. Louis 9 could also fit as a famous King.