Kentharu
Zebra Commander
ok im gonna say it...
I am a fan of Anne Rice
I am a fan of Anne Rice
While We Wait: Part 6
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Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
Man, I'm really starting to get sad about the GodNES thing. If zxcvbnm ever somes back I will jump for joy. I mean just look at the map he made:
Plus I had some interesting allies. If I remember correctly I might have had a fire god as an ally, even though I was the god of plants. Abaddon was a god of chaos and also one of my allies. Me and Abbadon even shared the same start point together (bottom right with all of the lakes).
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Plus I had some interesting allies. If I remember correctly I might have had a fire god as an ally, even though I was the god of plants. Abaddon was a god of chaos and also one of my allies. Me and Abbadon even shared the same start point together (bottom right with all of the lakes).
. I was the top centre with all the snow and the mountain.Part 2:
While the Byzantines were busy fighting wars in the Middle East, Hungary and Poland, both now under the control of branches of the powerful Lithuanian Jagiellon Family, were consolidating their power in Europe. In 1465, at the Union of Lublin, a Polish Princess was married to a Hungarian King, uniting the two crowns into the Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth. A new superpower was born in Europe.
Farther to the west, the 100 Years War between England and France was coming to a close, Spain was in the process of finishing up their Reconquista in Iberia and an age of Nation-States and colonization was only right around the corner.
When the New World was discovered by Christopher Columbus a new age of Colonization began. British, French, Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch colonist poured into the new continents as their respective nations attempted to set up Global Empires. Most of the Native Populations were wiped out by disease and war, however sizable populations remained in Peru and Mexico.
On the other side of the world, a similar scramble for trading posts was taking place in East Asia. European colonist continually defeated the various nations of Asia and set the terms of trade to favor themselves. Eventually the only nations to withstand the full onslaught of European technological superiority were the China, due to its vast size and Japan, who were at a similar level to the Europeans due to a flow of technology through Byzantium and then the Timurids.
As the colonial empires of the various nations grew, so did tensions among them. In 1754, war broke out between Great Britain, Prussia, The Byzantines vs. France, Spain, The Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth and Austria over various border disputes with the latter alliance’s defeat. The French Empire in the Americas was dismantled and Spain was severely weakened. Prussia was also able to secure control over much more of Germany, replacing Austria as the new dominant power in the area.
Despite Britain’s victory in the war, her colonies in North America also learned at this time that they were able to govern and defend themselves. In 1776, a large segment of Britain’s colonies rebelled in the America with the goal of establishing independence. By 1780 they were successful and the new nations of the American Union, with a strong federal government and anti-slavery laws, and the American Confederation, with a weaker central government and legal slavery, emerged.
The successful rebellion in Britain paved the way for similar revolutions in Spanish colonies, and eventually France itself. In the 1790s, France erupted into revolution to throw off the Bourbon Monarchy. The revolution here was also successful, largely due to the victories of a man named Napoleon Bonaparte.
Napoleon’s military victories in the revolution against at first French loyalist and later British, Austrian, German and Polish-Hungarian Troops lead to the continuation of France’s power in Europe despite being in chaos. In 1792, Napoleon invaded Egypt with the intent to use it as a base to destroy the French Royalist allies of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and Byzantium and eventually use it as a base from which to attack British possessions in India. Not long afterwards, the Byzantine Senate voted to attack Egypt to keep the French from gaining too much territory in the region. The Byzantine Imperial Army invaded and attacked Napoleon defeating him at several major battles, forcing him to retreat home.
Once back in France, Napoleon crowned himself Emperor, and then proceeded to attack and attempt to conquer most of the other powers in Europe. Prussia, Spain, Sweden, The Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth, Britain and the Byzantines all failed to defeat Napoleon in a divisive battle. In 1811, Napoleon concluded a secret treaty with the Byzantine Empire, to attack and divide up the Timurid Empire and then march to India. In 1812, He invaded, marching as far as Kiev before word finally reached that the Byzantines had betrayed him and not attacked. Nonetheless, Napoleon chose to continue his campaign eastward. By winter, he had sustained horrible casualties and found his supply lines stretched. Word also reached him of renewed attacks by Britain and Germany in the West. With no choice but to end his war, Napoleon retreated. By the time Napoleon reached France, he found his nation a wreck and his enemies united against him. Combined assaults from Britain, Prussia, Poland-Hungary and the Byzantine Empire eventually lead to the fall of his Empire, but with a conditional surrender. Napoleon was forced to step down as Emperor and instead took the position of Consul of the Second Republic. A position he held until his death in 1825.
While the Byzantines were busy fighting wars in the Middle East, Hungary and Poland, both now under the control of branches of the powerful Lithuanian Jagiellon Family, were consolidating their power in Europe. In 1465, at the Union of Lublin, a Polish Princess was married to a Hungarian King, uniting the two crowns into the Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth. A new superpower was born in Europe.
Farther to the west, the 100 Years War between England and France was coming to a close, Spain was in the process of finishing up their Reconquista in Iberia and an age of Nation-States and colonization was only right around the corner.
When the New World was discovered by Christopher Columbus a new age of Colonization began. British, French, Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch colonist poured into the new continents as their respective nations attempted to set up Global Empires. Most of the Native Populations were wiped out by disease and war, however sizable populations remained in Peru and Mexico.
On the other side of the world, a similar scramble for trading posts was taking place in East Asia. European colonist continually defeated the various nations of Asia and set the terms of trade to favor themselves. Eventually the only nations to withstand the full onslaught of European technological superiority were the China, due to its vast size and Japan, who were at a similar level to the Europeans due to a flow of technology through Byzantium and then the Timurids.
As the colonial empires of the various nations grew, so did tensions among them. In 1754, war broke out between Great Britain, Prussia, The Byzantines vs. France, Spain, The Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth and Austria over various border disputes with the latter alliance’s defeat. The French Empire in the Americas was dismantled and Spain was severely weakened. Prussia was also able to secure control over much more of Germany, replacing Austria as the new dominant power in the area.
Despite Britain’s victory in the war, her colonies in North America also learned at this time that they were able to govern and defend themselves. In 1776, a large segment of Britain’s colonies rebelled in the America with the goal of establishing independence. By 1780 they were successful and the new nations of the American Union, with a strong federal government and anti-slavery laws, and the American Confederation, with a weaker central government and legal slavery, emerged.
The successful rebellion in Britain paved the way for similar revolutions in Spanish colonies, and eventually France itself. In the 1790s, France erupted into revolution to throw off the Bourbon Monarchy. The revolution here was also successful, largely due to the victories of a man named Napoleon Bonaparte.
Napoleon’s military victories in the revolution against at first French loyalist and later British, Austrian, German and Polish-Hungarian Troops lead to the continuation of France’s power in Europe despite being in chaos. In 1792, Napoleon invaded Egypt with the intent to use it as a base to destroy the French Royalist allies of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and Byzantium and eventually use it as a base from which to attack British possessions in India. Not long afterwards, the Byzantine Senate voted to attack Egypt to keep the French from gaining too much territory in the region. The Byzantine Imperial Army invaded and attacked Napoleon defeating him at several major battles, forcing him to retreat home.
Once back in France, Napoleon crowned himself Emperor, and then proceeded to attack and attempt to conquer most of the other powers in Europe. Prussia, Spain, Sweden, The Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth, Britain and the Byzantines all failed to defeat Napoleon in a divisive battle. In 1811, Napoleon concluded a secret treaty with the Byzantine Empire, to attack and divide up the Timurid Empire and then march to India. In 1812, He invaded, marching as far as Kiev before word finally reached that the Byzantines had betrayed him and not attacked. Nonetheless, Napoleon chose to continue his campaign eastward. By winter, he had sustained horrible casualties and found his supply lines stretched. Word also reached him of renewed attacks by Britain and Germany in the West. With no choice but to end his war, Napoleon retreated. By the time Napoleon reached France, he found his nation a wreck and his enemies united against him. Combined assaults from Britain, Prussia, Poland-Hungary and the Byzantine Empire eventually lead to the fall of his Empire, but with a conditional surrender. Napoleon was forced to step down as Emperor and instead took the position of Consul of the Second Republic. A position he held until his death in 1825.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
Wait, there is a Napoleon, and a whatnot?
In my opinion, you should have different people and think, a alive Byzantine will change history alot. Especially the lack of a Russia and a Arabian Jerusalem.
In my opinion, you should have different people and think, a alive Byzantine will change history alot. Especially the lack of a Russia and a Arabian Jerusalem.
Read part one.
Russia is basically the Timurid Empire.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7473783&postcount=553
Russia is basically the Timurid Empire.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7473783&postcount=553
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
But almost what you are doing is making a small difference, and having differnt times and some different names for different events. It is a good Alt His for Part 1, especially a few parts of Novogrod surviving and the POD. But now it is almost real histoy.
I suggest making the POD count. Make Byzantine survive, Novogrod becomes capital of 'Russia' and a few other key differences.
Maybe Napoleon in this time line triggers Nationalic Pride in Russia like he did in OTL in Italy and they rebeled, adopeted Novogrod, now a strong trading state, as their capital and a Crimean War when a new Moderized Timur invaded New Russia, causing most nations supporting Russia but a few Russian Enemies supporting Timur. Then maybe the aftershocks will start a World War 1. Your alt history but here are a few positive suggestions/critiques.
However, a applaud the divergence of the alt historical French/Indian war with the two confederacys.
I suggest making the POD count. Make Byzantine survive, Novogrod becomes capital of 'Russia' and a few other key differences.
Maybe Napoleon in this time line triggers Nationalic Pride in Russia like he did in OTL in Italy and they rebeled, adopeted Novogrod, now a strong trading state, as their capital and a Crimean War when a new Moderized Timur invaded New Russia, causing most nations supporting Russia but a few Russian Enemies supporting Timur. Then maybe the aftershocks will start a World War 1. Your alt history but here are a few positive suggestions/critiques.
However, a applaud the divergence of the alt historical French/Indian war with the two confederacys.
Part 3:
The Napoleonic Wars greatly affected the world. It convinced the Germans that Prussian leadership would be needed to keep them safe, leading the way for the German Union to be born in 1815. Not long later, Similar actions took place in Italy. The Northern Italian Republic was born under Piedmontese and Tuscan leadership in 1821. The War also lead to the exile of most of the former French nobility to Haiti and eventually New Orleans, where they proceeding in setting up their own Bourbon Kingdom of Louisiana in the area, with the intent to eventually reclaim the throne of France. The wars also defocused European concentration on the Americas, allowing Japan to successfully annex lands from Alaska to Oregon. Most of South America and Mexico also gained independence from Spain at this time.
Following the Napoleonic Wars, peace prevailed in Europe and the Americas. Colonization grew, as Britain sought to secure its hold in India, and the Byzantines began to use Egypt as a base from which to colonize and explore the Indian Ocean. In 1840, The West Coast Republic entered the stage as the world’s newest country.
Now its 1850. The world has been without a major war for nearly 50 years, but tensions are growing. The French are seeking revenge for the losses, Russian nationalism threatens to tear apart the Timurid Empire, and all of the various American Nations are seeking to be the first to unite their continent. Can peace prevail or is war inevitable?
I am waiting for Dachs to tear this into shreds.
The Napoleonic Wars greatly affected the world. It convinced the Germans that Prussian leadership would be needed to keep them safe, leading the way for the German Union to be born in 1815. Not long later, Similar actions took place in Italy. The Northern Italian Republic was born under Piedmontese and Tuscan leadership in 1821. The War also lead to the exile of most of the former French nobility to Haiti and eventually New Orleans, where they proceeding in setting up their own Bourbon Kingdom of Louisiana in the area, with the intent to eventually reclaim the throne of France. The wars also defocused European concentration on the Americas, allowing Japan to successfully annex lands from Alaska to Oregon. Most of South America and Mexico also gained independence from Spain at this time.
Following the Napoleonic Wars, peace prevailed in Europe and the Americas. Colonization grew, as Britain sought to secure its hold in India, and the Byzantines began to use Egypt as a base from which to colonize and explore the Indian Ocean. In 1840, The West Coast Republic entered the stage as the world’s newest country.
Now its 1850. The world has been without a major war for nearly 50 years, but tensions are growing. The French are seeking revenge for the losses, Russian nationalism threatens to tear apart the Timurid Empire, and all of the various American Nations are seeking to be the first to unite their continent. Can peace prevail or is war inevitable?
I am waiting for Dachs to tear this into shreds.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
I can rewrite it for you and make it a little bit more possible. However, I will not take away key elements. Shall I?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
First off, this doesn't belong here, it belongs in the Alternate History Thread.
Second, please by all that is holy do NOT put this in the Alternate History Thread.
And third, it doesn't need Dachs to tear it to shreds. It can do that fairly effectively on its' own without outside interference. I'm still waiting to learn the ability to UNREAD things, because it would be pretty handy right about now.
Second, please by all that is holy do NOT put this in the Alternate History Thread.
And third, it doesn't need Dachs to tear it to shreds. It can do that fairly effectively on its' own without outside interference. I'm still waiting to learn the ability to UNREAD things, because it would be pretty handy right about now.
Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
First off, this doesn't belong here, it belongs in the Alternate History Thread.
Second, please by all that his holy do NOT put this in the Alternate History Thread.
He's already made his own thread if you haven't noticed
.And when are people going to help me decide which NES to do?! I DEMAND INPUT!
Thlayli, I just didn't bother reading it 
God NES I remeber that one, I was an evil giant manatee, that was classy compared to all your fantasy god clones, in a new god NES I would so be the Evil Cute Kitty of Death and Destruction
Kentharu no real great shame, sure teenage girls, and even young female adults, my darling included enjoy the darn thing. I'm not going to judge you for reading that, it's better that people are reading, however terrible some of us may find those particular books
Gosh darned, I really feel old.
God NES I remeber that one, I was an evil giant manatee, that was classy compared to all your fantasy god clones, in a new god NES I would so be the Evil Cute Kitty of Death and Destruction
Kentharu no real great shame, sure teenage girls, and even young female adults, my darling included enjoy the darn thing. I'm not going to judge you for reading that, it's better that people are reading, however terrible some of us may find those particular books
Gosh darned, I really feel old.
Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
Hey! Plant gods aren't that common
. And besides, me and Abaddon had a rather interesting plan. His forces of chaos would sweep over the land, constantly expanding and spreading. As the wave of chaos swept over the world, Groga and his plants would take root in the rubble and cover the world with a massive jungle. I'm sure once we destroyed all of the other gods we would have turned on each other or something.
Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
No they are not
But then how often do you see Manatees which devour for a living?
Manatees eat things all the time. It isn't unusual.
