While We Wait: Part 6

[silver 2039]

I'm in physics too, actually.

See I knew it.

 

[Symphony D.]

See I knew it.

The idea that I could contain my rage at your collective failings under the guise of an alternate account is a dramatic underestimation of your capacity for garnering my ire.

 

[Dachs]

I'm in physics too, actually.

Oh, I never meant to imply that you weren't; my main focus was on stating that Symphony's area of expertise didn't lie where you have demonstrated yours to be. Or something to that effect. Yeah, it was about him, not you?

 

[das]

True, but I think you can imagine that an adolescent doesn’t have as much patience as an adult. Especially brown, psychotic, hyper people that have been driven mad with school stress.

Well, that's the reason why your NESes are unpopular.

Hahahahaha. Ah, the Ottomans. Hilarity! You know who didn't suck in the 1840s and 1850s? Britain. They were great. I miss Britain. Why doesn't someone make a NES where Britain is good, instead of mauled (by some amazing twist of fate) by America, or somesuch. Britain needs more respect from you rapscallions.

Even I agree with that, and I mauled it how many times?

das has posited such scenarios twice.

If I recall correctly, it was through no fault of my own, except inasmuch as I didn't let you fall apart into infighting early on. I could hardly be blamed for the fact that everyone and their dog helped you do it in one way or another.

PoD: Napoleon is born as usual, but penguins abduct him and take him to Constantinople as a boy.

He actually was supposed to go to Constantinople as a military adviser, but by sheer chance ended up putting down an uprising in Paris instead, if memory serves. Hence what Dachs said.

I've been wondering, what have sp and Charles done that gives them such a bad reputation? did they do smething bad a while back, or have they just been considered unsuccessful in NESs?

What Thlayli said, plus unjustifiably annoying, pestering, grinding questions about the most basic things that could be looked up much more easily otherwise. The fact that it is usually a good thing when the newbies ask the veterans for advice only makes it worse inasmuch as it was a horrible though entirely unintentional abuse of this.

They're both much better now, but they still have a long way to go.

 

[Dachs]

If I recall correctly, it was through no fault of my own, except inasmuch as I didn't let you fall apart into infighting early on. I could hardly be blamed for the fact that everyone and their dog helped you do it in one way or another.

I meant the Tsar Pavel's War TL and the aforementioned Napoleonic scheme, not what I did.

 

[das]

Well, there were those too. I maintain that the later half of the 18th century was in a way an even lower point than most of the 19th century for the Ottoman Empire; getting rid of the Janissaries certainly was an improvement, for one thing, as was receiving serious and tangible support from the British.

 

[Dachs]

Well, there were those too. I maintain that the later half of the 18th century was in a way an even lower point than most of the 19th century for the Ottoman Empire; getting rid of the Janissaries certainly was an improvement, for one thing, as was receiving serious and tangible support from the British.

Oh, most certainly. It's not for nothing that it's called the 'Auspicious' Incident. Bit like the Nacht der langen Messer in a way, hmm?

 

[das]

Only in the most general sense of rapidly killing off an annoying, harmful part of the political elite in the capital (I wonder why haven't more Byzantine emperors done something like that?). Anyway, der Nacht dealt with a limited group within the first generation of immediate retainers, whereas this was aimed against a bloated umpteenth-generation military "caste". Not really comparable except with regards to the means.

 

[Dachs]

Only in the most general sense of rapidly killing off an annoying, harmful part of the political elite in the capital (I wonder why haven't more Byzantine emperors done something like that?). Anyway, der Nacht dealt with a limited group within the first generation of immediate retainers, whereas this was aimed against a bloated umpteenth-generation military "caste". Not really comparable except with regards to the means.

Oh, I don't know; the SA certainly was attempting to do its part in stalling Nazi 'progress', as it were, so perhaps it might be considered superficially comparable in that field as well. Also, it's die Nacht, not der Nacht.

 

[das]

Well, I suppose the goal was also similar, though the Nazis had other considerations as well; the Sultan was freeing his hands, whereas the Nazis were actively trying to ally with the military and the conservatives who did not mesh well with Herr Röhm and his merry band.

 

[Dachs]

As you will.

I really need to stop staying up absurdly late to finish these alternate history installments.

 

[Ekolite]

I joined NESing a little while before sp and Charles Li, so yeah I saw the whole spam thing that destroyed their reputation. Although they did eventually realise that they weren't actually impressing anyone so nowadays they save all their . .. .. .. . for OT and forum games instead.

I don't really play many NESes, so I wouldn't have thought I have any particular reputation. Its a shame that only niche NESes like PreChaNES and FFHNES appeal to me, I find the rest far too ridgid and cluncky for my liking.

 

[Masada]

Heh, they just have to claw it back. I'm sure we have some success stories. I personally don't find them all that bad anymore... aside from the occasional stunning bout of ignorance which takes a half dozen posts to sort out, when a simple wiki search would suffice. Transplant me at their age into NESing and I would have been significantly worse.

 

[Ekolite]

I think the worst NESer on the forum has got to be d'artagnan59. His attempts at diplomacy are such a laugh.

For e.g.

To: France, Spain
From: Portugal

Stop this war or we will stop it for you.

 

[Masada]

I'm not one for poking fingers, but there have been some similarly bad diplomacy from most of us in our early days, I routinely see it in new players in a developed NES. But when you start getting repeat offenders for no apparent rhyme or reason, then you have a problem. Suffice to say it's disappointing, annoying, but nothing we can't deal with as a community. Were at least making progress in some arenas, even if we have slid into stagnation in others areas.

 

[Kentharu]

my attempts at diplomacy at first were pathetic

especially in NES IV (or is it VI?)

I'd like to think I've improved some what.

But who can say that without sounding like a total douche bag

I've improved a lot and I'm better than all of you.

 

[Dachs]

This thread just got wayyy too user specific, hmm? Can't we just talk about how the very concept of the film Twilight sucks?

 

[Kentharu]

zomg twilight sucks so much

all sarcasm aside

can i haz vamyr shx??

Seriously why would vampires bother to let humans live other than in COMPLETE AND UNDER SUBMITION TO THEM considering that they are immortal, super natural human beings who's only weakness is sun light.

I liked Blade, he is smexy

 

[das]

Vampires in general are sort of played; it might, however, be nice to try and go back to their roots when they were monsters that happened to sometimes be sophisticated aristocrats and not goths (same with werewolves, especially those of them who are Slavic princes/sorcerers/demagogues: see Vseslav Bryachislavich and some Serbian guy whose name escapes me at the moment). Dracula was pretty awesome, but cloning him and exaggerating some of his characteristics at the expense of the others was definitely not the way to go.

The Calabim in FFH2 are nice, but mostly just from the gameplay point of view.

 

[Sheep]

I liked the back-story to the Vampire Counts of Warhammer..... Vampires in general are pretty cool but that particular back-story was cool amongst the general coolness.