Why are the leader heads so ugly?

Only a few of them look decent. The rest are just comically ugly (cough *teddy*). Even the female leaders aren't that great. What happened?

Have you never seen a characature before? The new style is so much more expressive and fun. There's so much more going on in the animations. I can't go back to the Civ V guy-on-a-horse-with-little-expression animations now that we have Civ VI.
 
Pedro is the only one that I think looks outright ridiculous. The rest are fine, and a few of them are magnificent.

That's true. Pedro looks nothing like his portrait. He literally looks like a pirate with a cold.

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That's true. Pedro looks nothing like his portrait. He literally looks like a pirate with a cold.

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Maybe we'll get to celebrate Ham Carnival nite?

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EDIT: I do agree, in that Pedro is the most cartoonish of them all, most have a decent balance of cartoonish vs dignified personality
 
The leader heads in Civ 4 were also cartoonish IMO
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Exactly, and that's why I like the new style. The Civ series has always been light-hearted and tongue-in-cheek, so I see the more cartoonish leaders as a return to form.

When BNW came out, there was some discussion of what the then-hypothetical Civ VI might do, and, after the full-bodied, realistic-looking, dialogue-spouting leaders of V, how VI could do anything that was "better". My response at the time went, in part, like this:

I'm not sure "better" is the right word here. I think it's more a question of what fits the game itself. Having fully-animated talking leaders fits with what Civ V is, but we don't know yet what style or tone Civ VI will take. It might turn out that more scaled-back leaderheads could be more appropriate for the look and feel of Civ VI.

Of course I understand that some people will insist that anything that's not explicitly bigger and flashier than what they've done before is going "backward", but I would say it depends. For one thing, the resources it takes to get a fully-animated leader speaking (ostensibly) their own language might be better spent elsewhere. Not every dead language has been sufficiently reconstructed to use, but some of the leaders speak entirely the wrong language even when there are other languages available that would have been more appropriate.

[. . .]

The animated leaderheads of Civ III looked better than the still portraits and jerky heralds of Civ II, but still removed the option of alternative leaders for each civ. The leaderheads of Civ IV moved more smoothly and looked much nicer than the Civ III bobble-heads, but sacrificed having era-specific appearances with different outfits and fresh backgrounds. Civ VI doesn't have to continue farther in the same direction that Civ V took. Losing the fully-animated talking leaders isn't necessarily a step down if whatever they look like instead fits the style and tone of the game itself.

[. . .]

Simpler leaderheads that take less time and effort to develop re-opens the possibility of having multiple leaders per civ, as Civ IV did. I would appreciate that kind of variety.

[. . .]

I know not everyone will agree. There are those who will say they have to be bigger and badder every time, and that Civ VI leaders have to speak all of their dialogue or be played by live action actors or something or it's a ripoff. But I'd prefer if the developers tried to capture the right tone, rather than just struggle to outdo themselves every time.

I stand by everything I said then, and I'm pleased to see the developers apparently felt the same way. Apart from the continuation of the gimmick of spoken dialogue, which I happen to think is tired out already and would like to see dropped, I like that they've matched the leaders to the more colorful, traditionally Civ-like tone of the new game after the "gritty reboot" that V tried to be. In addition, that does indeed seem to have facilitated the return of multiple leaders, which I am obviously thrilled about.

So I don't think they're "ugly" at all, and I gladly welcome the new art style.
 
Honestly, stylized works have the huge benefit of aging a lot better over time.
Compare old sprite based SNES games to say Mortal Kombat or sprite based PS1 games to Tomb Raider and the sprite based ones definitely look great now,
while the "realistic" ones look absolutely primitive now.

Looking back at Civ 3, it probably has the worst looking leaderheads bar none, and a couple years down the line, Civ 5 will probably be seen in the same light.
I can already think of future comments on how ugly Civ 5 leaders look (they all look plastic, you can't see their pores, skin coloration is too consistent across their whole body, etc.)
I'm glad that Civ 6 is looking ahead in this regard.
 
i LOVE the C6 leaderheads. They're cartoons, not accurate reps. It's fine if they've got disproportionate noses and chins and eyes and stuff.

I dig the animations too. Especially Phillip's (sassy, sexually-ambiguous metrosexual <3) and Tomyris's (neurotic, and almost certainly bipolar weirdo <3)
 
i LOVE the C6 leaderheads. They're cartoons, not accurate reps. It's fine if they've got disproportionate noses and chins and eyes and stuff.

I dig the animations too. Especially Phillip's (sassy, sexually-ambiguous metrosexual <3) and Tomyris's (neurotic, and almost certainly bipolar weirdo <3)

I like them too, tho some go a bit too far, and could use a bit less exageration to fit better with the rest (escentially getting the Teddy treatment) Pedro and Qin Shi Huang could use the facelift to be closer to say Tomyris and Hojo (just enough so that they feel like they belong in the same world).

I've mentioned this before, design wise, its always easier to exagerate then tone it down, than it is to go bland and then try to exagerate, so yeah, Pedro and Qin, could use the fix.
 
Am i the only one that misses the era-specific costuming from Civ III?

That was always a quirky feature of Civ III that I enjoyed (Cleopatra with her bonnet :lol:) but I don't think I'd like to see it return.

Also, the Civ VI leader heads are magnificent...I'm particularly fond of Tomyris, I'll be making a point of always being her ally. :D
 
Am i the only one that misses the era-specific costuming from Civ III?

You are not the only one. But replayability,marketing and production wise, it's probably better to use those resources on animating a new leader than to sink them on a single one.
 
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