Why do the Grigori have water mana?

[Wyrmhero]

Why exactly do the Grigori have water mana from their palace? I've wondered for a while, but come up with no answer...

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Well, there is no force/balance mana sphere (at least yet, probably ever, although it might just be a placeholder until it is implemented) and the water god was one of the most neutral and uninvolved in creation (he really didn't even fight in the Godswar). Plus, it is useful to have when either extremist religion (Order or AV) start burning your lands to the ground.

Do you have a better suggestion for their mana types?

 

[Kael]

No big reason. Every civ has a summonable sphere (the grigori's other 2 aren't) so they needed something to summon with. Water seemed as good as any, though Earth works just as well.

 

[Wyrmhero]

No, I was just wondering. Thanks. I thought it would be more... Thematical, although I can see why needing a summoning sphere is important.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Every civ has a summonable sphere

Actually, that is not true. The Sidar have Spirit, Enchantment, and Body, none of which have summons.

That is one reason why several posters have suggested giving them Shadow Mana. I was strongly against the idea at first. For one, their UU already has shadow magic, so ti would be less useful for them than for other civs. Also, the first poster recommended giving shadow in the place of spirit, which I consider this their most important and thematic sphere because they were founded by the use of Laroth's spirit magic. When they recomended replacing Enchantment I was also against it, since Laroth's ability to bind spirits to weapons (like the netherblade) thus enchanting them made me think that the Books of Laroth that the Sidar still posses probably contain lots of knowledge on enchantment as well. Originally I was opposed to replacing Body with Shadow because the act of becoming a shade is done specifically to preserve the body and make one live forever and since they miss physical pleasures like taste more than deeper feelings like love, but I think I've been convinced otherwise; the Body sphere (and especially Aeron) represent the properties of physical pleasures, lusts, and rage, all of which Shades loose over time as a result of eating away at their own souls. I think I'll probably replace their Body sphere with Shadow in my modmod.

 

[Kael]

Actually, that is not true. The Sidar have Spirit, Enchantment, and Body, none of which have summons.

That is one reason why several posters have suggested giving them Shadow Mana. I was strongly against the idea at first. For one, their UU already has shadow magic, so ti would be less useful for them than for other civs. Also, the first poster recommended giving shadow in the place of spirit, which I consider this their most important and thematic sphere because they were founded by the use of Laroth's spirit magic. When they recomended replacing Enchantment I was also against it, since Laroth's ability to bind spirits to weapons (like the netherblade) thus enchanting them made me think that the Books of Laroth that the Sidar still posses probably contain lots of knowledge on enchantment as well. Originally I was opposed to replacing Body with Shadow because the act of becoming a shade is done specifically to preserve the body and make one live forever and since they miss physical pleasures like taste more than deeper feelings like love, but I think I've been convinced otherwise; the Body sphere (and especially Aeron) represent the properties of physical pleasures, lusts, and rage, all of which Shades loose over time as a result of eating away at their own souls. I think I'll probably replace their Body sphere with Shadow in my modmod.

Yeah, thats a good point. I'll do the same (replace body with shadow mana).

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Yeah, thats a good point. I'll do the same (replace body with shadow mana).

Yay Magister! you conviced kael