Why does my Allied friend not declare war on a civ that attacked me?

[valamas]

I have an alliance with the Kongo. We are Allied as a status.

France declared a surprise war on me. The Kongo did not declare war on France. Why?

[Patch 1.0.0.26]

 

[Dearmad]

Good question. I was allied to Scythia- they got attacked. I wasn't asked to help or obligated to.

 

[Menzies]

It seems that "alliance" could be replaced with 'Well happy friendly time' at this point. It seems you need a separate defensive pack to be actual allies.

 

[narmox]

Well I still don't have the game, but I remember some streamers having the same questions, which were answered in the Civiliopedia. So I won't try to remember what the answer was but I know it was in there.

 

[valamas]

@Menzies - gday mate.
I think you are right. It should be renamed "Butt-Buddies".

Thankfully after a few turns the Kongo declared war on France. They have a huge army.

Perhaps because I was already at war, I could not ask The Kongo to a joint-war with France.

 

[Morgawr]

"Patch 1.0.0.26" - wait there's a patch already? Where is the change log?

 

[stealth_nsk]

"Patch 1.0.0.26" - wait there's a patch already? Where is the change log?

Zero-day build. We assume there will be patches soon, so posting build number is helpful.

 

[AriochIV]

I have an alliance with the Kongo. We are Allied as a status.

France declared a surprise war on me. The Kongo did not declare war on France. Why?

[Patch 1.0.0.26]

Alliance doesn't make your ally join you in war. You need Defensive Pact for that.

• Open Borders (Early Empire): "Ask this power to allow your units to travel through their controlled territory."
• Research Agreement (Scientific Theory): "Establish a Research Agreement with a Declared Friend or Alliance member. Research Agreements allow two parties to jointly research a target technology. The more expensive the technology, the longer the agreement will take. At the duration of the agreement, each party earns the Boost for that technology."
• Alliance (Civil Service): "Establish an Alliance with a Declared Friend. Allies may not go to war, automatically have Open Borders, and each receives a Casus Belli on an aggressor civilization of one of their allies loses a city."
• Resident Embassies (Diplomatic Service): "Establish a permanent Embassy with this power. If accepted, the recipient will be a bit friendlier, you will gain one level to Access, and the recipient's Capital will be revealed."
• Defensive Pact (Mobilization): "Establish a Defensive Pact. When either member of the Alliance is attacked, all members will automatically declare war with the aggressor."

Zero-day build. We assume there will be patches soon, so posting build number is helpful.

Heh, wishful thinking.

 

[Baba Yetu VI]

In CIV 5 BNW, when defensive pact is effective, once you declare war say, against France, then, Spain(your ally) follows right away.