Why forcing people to install STEAM ?

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I used to like it. Now I see it as a waste of time...

Lol of course its a waste of time.. like playing a game. But if you enjoy playing the game its a good waste of time. If you enjoy micromanaging your PC its a good waste of time.
 
Why do people dislike Steam so much? Why do they have strong opinions about Steam at all? I honestly couldn't have cared one way or the other whether Civ V was a Steamworks game or not.

The fact that it requires an internet connection to activate is definitely inconvenient for people who can't access the internet, but most of the complaints I see aren't made by those people.
 
The thing I don't like about Steam is that it installs the game on whatever drive Steam is on. I like to be organized and have different drives for things and games. So with Steam and multiple games via steam I have to maintain a huge hard drive, making it more time consuming to maintain.

It is my understanding that once Steam is installed you can move the Steamapps folder to whichever drive you want it on. It will then installed the steam games to that location. You may want to take a look at the Steam forums or the Steam stickies here on these forums or at the 2k games forums for more information about this.
 
Lol of course its a waste of time.. like playing a game. But if you enjoy playing the game its a good waste of time. If you enjoy micromanaging your PC its a good waste of time.

Yup, not saying it'S evil or others shouldn't do it. Just talking about my position.

Heck I waste time tweaking my Android phone these days, reflashing it with other ROMs, etc.. Though not as much as a few months ago, again I prefer to have a usable, stable phone now lol.

Narmox
 
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All the bad press about Steam is coming from players who tried installing Pirated steam games and got their account banned (I realized this very recently). Go try it and make an opinion for yourself.

Not true, If Steam wouldn't force advertisements on me whenever I want to play the games I've bought through them, I'd like them a lot better. Nothing like getting your game backgrounded because a NEW DEAL is on sale now!!! And to make sure you browse their advertisements they pop a window up.

I still bought Civ (though I bought it from D2D and had NO CLUE it was only on steam at the time...that pissed me off too). But even if I knew it was on steam, I would still have bought it because I wanted to play the game. Doesn't mean I have any love for Steam, but also doesn't mean I'm going to shoot myself in the foot and not play the game to spite them. I will however, happily :):):):):) about it :)
 
Not true, If Steam wouldn't force advertisements on me whenever I want to play the games I've bought through them, I'd like them a lot better. Nothing like getting your game backgrounded because a NEW DEAL is on sale now!!! And to make sure you browse their advertisements they pop a window up.

I still bought Civ (though I bought it from D2D and had NO CLUE it was only on steam at the time...that pissed me off too). But even if I knew it was on steam, I would still have bought it because I wanted to play the game. Doesn't mean I have any love for Steam, but also doesn't mean I'm going to shoot myself in the foot and not play the game to spite them. I will however, happily :):):):):) about it :)

Umm Steam has an options tab. Go turn off the ads. If you turn off the stuff you don't like you won't see it again.
 
Why do people dislike Steam so much? Why do they have strong opinions about Steam at all? I honestly couldn't have cared one way or the other whether Civ V was a Steamworks game or not.

Like anything thats forced apon people your going to have people who dislike it. Alot of reasons are simply silly but there are many viable reasons to dislike it. The biggest problem is with the people who would rather not debate in fact but turn it into an emotional argument. Such as "Steam is great you all are just stuck in the past" or " steam sucks stupid fanboi" etc. This adds nothing to the discourse and simply clouds the debate with pointless flaming. Making matters worse is some people don't understand that the majority of objections have nothing to do with digital distribution so you see alot of people who defend steam saying that this is the way of the future.
 
Like anything thats forced apon people your going to have people who dislike it. Alot of reasons are simply silly but there are many viable reasons to dislike it. The biggest problem is with the people who would rather not debate in fact but turn it into an emotional argument. Such as "Steam is great you all are just stuck in the past" or " steam sucks stupid fanboi" etc. This adds nothing to the discourse and simply clouds the debate with pointless flaming.

Indeed, emotional arguments... well everyone has emotions so it makes sense to see them, but they bring nothing to the table.

Either way, my personal opinion, I'd rather have Steam than a CD/DVD I'm forced to use to play the game. Since I'll be travelling extensively, the fewer hardware I need to bring, the better. Since I bought it directly from Steam, if I need to reinstall I just redownload. And Steam is forced on us just as much as previous DRM schemes were forced on us, or the requirement for using a DVD, or how we were forced to manually download patches (could be nice to still have that option though!)

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Narmox.
 
Not true, If Steam wouldn't force advertisements on me whenever I want to play the games I've bought through them, I'd like them a lot better. Nothing like getting your game backgrounded because a NEW DEAL is on sale now!!! And to make sure you browse their advertisements they pop a window up.
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It sounds like a bug. I often have some advertisements with Steam, but they pop up after playing a game on Steam and it doesn't get in my way, it just appears quietly in the background when I quit a game.
You can disable these advertisements in the parameters menu, in the 'Interface' tab, there's a checkbox to do that. You can also try to see on the Steam forums if this is a known bug.
 
Not true, If Steam wouldn't force advertisements on me whenever I want to play the games I've bought through them, I'd like them a lot better. Nothing like getting your game backgrounded because a NEW DEAL is on sale now!!! And to make sure you browse their advertisements they pop a window up.

I still bought Civ (though I bought it from D2D and had NO CLUE it was only on steam at the time...that pissed me off too). But even if I knew it was on steam, I would still have bought it because I wanted to play the game. Doesn't mean I have any love for Steam, but also doesn't mean I'm going to shoot myself in the foot and not play the game to spite them. I will however, happily :):):):):) about it :)
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I have been using Steam for YEARS and I own more than a hundred games on it, and it NEVER Alt-tabbed me out of a game to show an ad. The only time you see an ad (not an ad, more like a notification of a new release or hot sale) is when I close Steam and start it for the first time. It never pops while you are playing. NEVER.

And as someone pointed out, you can disable it from the options. In fact you can even play in offline mode forever and never need an internet connection again, you will just miss the updates.
 
Not true, If Steam wouldn't force advertisements on me whenever I want to play the games I've bought through them, I'd like them a lot better. Nothing like getting your game backgrounded because a NEW DEAL is on sale now!!! And to make sure you browse their advertisements they pop a window up.

This !
 
Yeah. Not to be inflammatory, but it does seem like a lot of the Steam complaints are about things that you can disable, or about things that, if they really are happening at all, are definitely bugs and not things Steam usually does.

Steam doesn't pop up ads and alt-tab you. At least, it shouldn't be doing that, isn't designed to be doing that, and I've never had it do that to me or anyone I know.

I used to hate Steam, 7 years ago, when it was buggy, inefficient, and full of memory leaks. Those problems got fixed, and now I don't have any complaints about it.
 
Not true, If Steam wouldn't force advertisements on me whenever I want to play the games I've bought through them, I'd like them a lot better. Nothing like getting your game backgrounded because a NEW DEAL is on sale now!!! And to make sure you browse their advertisements they pop a window up.

Good Lord, the next thing you know, those insidious television networks will force advertisements on us whenever we want to watch a TV program :crazyeye:
 
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I have been using Steam for YEARS and I own more than a hundred games on it, and it NEVER Alt-tabbed me out of a game to show an ad. The only time you see an ad (not an ad, more like a notification of a new release or hot sale) is when I close Steam and start it for the first time. It never pops while you are playing. NEVER.

And as someone pointed out, you can disable it from the options. In fact you can even play in offline mode forever and never need an internet connection again, you will just miss the updates.

With respect, you don't actually OWN those hundred games, and Steam can and has ( on rare occasions) burned people on their accounts. So those hundred games you have could disappear. All the games I own I can pop into my drive at anytime, and install whenever I wish. I don't have a third party program to worry about in order to play them, or worry about extra features that I do not want. Do the disk's take up space? definitely. Are they a pain in the butt to keep the kids away from? you bet. But a little pre-planning and common sense goes a long way towards alleviating a lot of potential headaches. There's always two sides to every arguement, it's just a matter of a person's perspective and choice. Just my 2 cents.
 
With respect, you don't actually OWN those hundred games, and Steam can and has ( on rare occasions) burned people on their accounts. So those hundred games you have could disappear. All the games I own I can pop into my drive at anytime, and install whenever I wish. I don't have a third party program to worry about in order to play them, or worry about extra features that I do not want. Do the disk's take up space? definitely. Are they a pain in the butt to keep the kids away from? you bet. But a little pre-planning and common sense goes a long way towards alleviating a lot of potential headaches. There's always two sides to every arguement, it's just a matter of a person's perspective and choice. Just my 2 cents.

Link to information about the "burned done by steam". I've seen this said before (by the same person??) and asked for a link or more information and none was supplied.
 
Afa, please see my post above. There are options to turn that off.

Now I see, thanks ! Anyways, it shouldn't be on by default. I already paid the same price as DVD version for nothing else than bytes, so they shouldn't try to make even more profit on his customers without being allowed to.
 
Link to information about the "burned done by steam". I've seen this said before (by the same person??) and asked for a link or more information and none was supplied.

No clue if its happened personally.. but the potential is there according to the steam EULA. One of my major problems with it.. the only recourse you have against steam according to the contract you agree to is to stop using it aka lose all your steam linked games. I mean the EULA basically boils down to Steam can do anything it wants and either you deal with it or you lose all your games. I'm no lawyer but sounds like a terrible contract to agree to imho.
 
The thing I don't like about Steam is that it installs the game on whatever drive Steam is on. I like to be organized and have different drives for things and games. So with Steam and multiple games via steam I have to maintain a huge hard drive, making it more time consuming to maintain.

Want to move a steam game to another drive? or just move Civ V to a new SSD drive?

just use steammover! simple and easy

http://lifehacker.com/5626931/steam...ations-to-free-up-space-on-your-primary-drive
 
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