Why is Economic Growth so important?

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Why do Governments/People all over the world put so much stock in continuously growing the Economy? It must consume a lot of resources and will inevitably shrink/crash again so what's the point? Wouldn't keeping it on a stable level be better?

Serious question, as I know there are some 'Economist' type people on here.
 
Our world/cultural vision was established on the premise that, tomorrow, there will always be more. Life will continue to get better and easier. Of course, that is obviously not the case, if you think about it. It is only getting worse and harder.
 
Well, people tend to think that there is only one thing better than having a lot of stuff. And that's having more stuff.

Also, in virtually every country there is poverty. This is widely considered to be a bad thing. It is politically easier to create new wealth of which the poor profit at least a bit, than it is to shift wealth from the rich to the poor.
 
This is how I think of it:

An economy is a cumulative expression of labour expended over a time span. If I build a house today, that house will still stand 50 years from now. My time spent building the house now will still have value then, despite the fact that I may or may not be alive. Since the population has grown yet my labours do not disappear, the cumulative amount of stuff measured in work hours increases.
 
Why do Governments/People all over the world put so much stock in continuously growing the Economy? It must consume a lot of resources and will inevitably shrink/crash again so what's the point? Wouldn't keeping it on a stable level be better?

Those resources include, education, knowledge, technology and efficient management (of both labour and capital). Why is it inevitable that they will run out, at least in the conceivable future?
 
Those resources include, education, knowledge, technology and efficient management (of both labour and capital). Why is it inevitable that they will run out, at least in the conceivable future?

Well...

Education is the process by which you obtain knowledge, so presumably if there is a limited amount of knowledge (and there must be) then there is a limit to education. If not, there is certainly a limit wherein time is concerned. Technology may not necessarily have a limit, but the resources that it takes to have technology are.
 
Well...

Education is the process by which you obtain knowledge, so presumably if there is a limited amount of knowledge (and there must be) then there is a limit to education. If not, there is certainly a limit wherein time is concerned. Technology may not necessarily have a limit, but the resources that it takes to have technology are.

At a certain point we might know every little thing there is to know about manipulating atoms. At that point, technology might not grow. However, in that case we are probably in a position we do not need to care. Until then, given a flow of resources, our ability to obtain an income from them will increase over time. That is, until we destroy these flows themselves, as we've done in a few cases (e.g. no new dodos are born). Most of the time humans have proved adaptive enough to find new flows of resources, but: that's no guarantee for the future. I'm optimistic.
 
It's just how we measure how healthy an economy is. Growing = healthy, not growing = not healthy. *shrug*

It is kind of annoying how everyone in the financial sector panics once the economy stops growing.. You can't grow something forever, is my take on it.
 
Why do Governments/People all over the world put so much stock in continuously growing the Economy? It must consume a lot of resources and will inevitably shrink/crash again so what's the point? Wouldn't keeping it on a stable level be better?

Serious question, as I know there are some 'Economist' type people on here.

No reason to ask that of an economist, unless you want to embarrass them. They avoid answering "non-technical" (meaning: embarrassing) questions.

I don't know if it is, or not, a cultural trait, but most people, individually, have expectations of seeing their lives improve. And promising them that is a most convenient political strategy, which only reinforces such expectations. In order to track the results of those promises an proclaim success (or complain about the failure of political opponents) metrics must be found, and that's where economists come in: inventing and tracking those metrics (increasingly virtual constructs, it seems to me).

Historically many societies had gone for the "stable" political goal - I dare say that it was the norm before the modern age. Emperors wanted stability because they essentially wanted to retain the power which they already had! State-sponsored religions and "ethics" promoted the idea of stability. But war, natural disasters, and population growth all worked against that goal.

As the world transited to the modern age, after the industrial and political revolutions started in the 18th century, material wealth increased dramatically but so did population, initially, and individually most people remained poor well into the 20th century, so "growth" was naturally a goal. the political revolutions, which increased the influence of the population over government policy, naturally reinforced that.

But, do we not live (in some parts of the world) on a "post-modern" world? Population finally ceased its explosive growth. Materially, some societies have had the resources to be very well-off since the 1950s. It may be therefore surprising that the idea of "growth" remains so strong. My hypothesis is as follows: the promise of growth remains a very useful, powerful distraction, when now when failure to deliver is plain for all to see. Without it people would have to consider what to do with existing resources, which inevitably would lead to questions about distribution. And just as rulers promoted the idea of "stability" in the pre-modern world because that was convenient for those who were on top, they now promote "growth" because it is convenient to maintain the present hierarchy ("social peace") where they are on top.
 
Why do Governments/People all over the world put so much stock in continuously growing the Economy? It must consume a lot of resources and will inevitably shrink/crash again so what's the point? Wouldn't keeping it on a stable level be better?

Serious question, as I know there are some 'Economist' type people on here.

Because they either do not realize and/or do not care about the effects of economic growth, and would rather focus on the now...
 
Why do Governments/People all over the world put so much stock in continuously growing the Economy? It must consume a lot of resources and will inevitably shrink/crash again so what's the point? Wouldn't keeping it on a stable level be better?

Serious question, as I know there are some 'Economist' type people on here.

A half-serious answer to a serious question: because life in Africa sucks right now. If standards of living there can be raised, we should probably work towards that. And rising standards of living == economic growth.
 
Why is Economic Growth so important?
Because it gives people the illusion of improvement when actually they may well be feeling worse. Also it lines the pockets of the wealthy. IIRC there was a thread (might not have been here) about some rich dude saying "well there were more billionaires in 2009 than in any other year therefore the recession must not be so bad" or something along those lines.

And rising standards of living == economic growth.
But economic growth doesn't always imply rising standards of living.
 
But it makes them possible. Which they are not, without growth, unless you reduce the number of people.
 
Population growth itself is a large reason why economic growth is needed. If the population continues to grow but the economy stays stagnant than obviously everyone ends up poorer.
 
We could just do a better job at limiting population growth.
 
Well...

Education is the process by which you obtain knowledge, so presumably if there is a limited amount of knowledge (and there must be) then there is a limit to education. If not, there is certainly a limit wherein time is concerned. Technology may not necessarily have a limit, but the resources that it takes to have technology are.

Hence conceivable future. You're right that we may one day reach the limits of knowledge, then:

At that point, technology might not grow. However, in that case we are probably in a position we do not need to care.

Basically.
 
The capitalist system being highly inefficient fails to provide full employment and economic security due to the classic capitalist problem of overproduction. Thus the capitalist always seeks new markets and new profits while at the same time there are not enough jobs for the workers, hence the capitalist system requires constant growth otherwise its flaws will be revealed and it will collapse. The business cycle periodically tosses millions of people into involountary unemployment and the capitalist frantically scrambles to reverse this trend and begin to grow again. Eventually this system will inevitably break down.
 
This is why capitalism is not compatible with a green, environmental society. In its very nature, it encourages obsessive materialism, overconsumption and waste of resources. Can any economist please explain how endless economic growth is possible on a planet with limited resources??
 
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