Why is Mt. Rushmore enable by Facism?

[Red Stranger]

Shouldn't it be enable by Democracy, since Mt. Rushmore was built in America, as a symbol of greatness.

 

[ComradeDavo]

No. In the game, it's not a great wonder. It's a National wonder that is linked to Nationalism. Thus, having it enabled by Fascism is fine by me.

 

[BeefontheBone]

Well, probably because its effect is related to war weariness, which the Police State civic also controls, and because Fascist governments were extremely active in building both public works (autobahn, anyone?) and monuments - something like Mt Rushmore (bearing in mind that you're playing effectively an alternative history of mankind) could easily have been built by a fascist regime. Anyway, Democracy already opens up lots of other things.

 

[RoboPig]

Shouldn't it be enable by Democracy, since Mt. Rushmore was built in America, as a symbol of greatness.

maybe because it shows the faces of the most glorious presidents and fascism wants to return a glorious past?

 

[Ray Patterson]

Shouldn't it be enable by Democracy, since Mt. Rushmore was built in America, as a symbol of greatness.

hm. I didn't think it made sense either, but now I have to reconsider...

 

[Shaihulud]

How can there be Mt Rushmore if there is only one leaderhead! Im immortal and have no need of a pyramidal shaped Mausoleum. Oracle? The leader sees all from space(top down perspective), he doesn't need a mystic to tell him anything, and much much more.

 

[Randle]

Shouldn't it be enable by Democracy, since Mt. Rushmore was built in America, as a symbol of greatness.

It's a symbol of nationalism, it was built to evoke pride in one's nation; it has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with nationalism.

 

[Smellincoffee]

IIRC, each of the four heads has its own meaning -- it's not just some huge sculpture of four of our former presidents.

 

[warpus]

Shouldn't it be enable by Democracy, since Mt. Rushmore was built in America, as a symbol of greatness.

why democracy? america is a republic, not a democracy.
i was a bit curious as to why exactly fascism enabled mt.rushmore, but now it makes a lot more sense.

 

[Multiplicity]

Shouldn't have Mt. Rushmore been enabled by researching Nationalism instead then?

 

[Carver]

Shouldn't it be enable by Democracy, since Mt. Rushmore was built in America, as a symbol of greatness.

It's a nationalist symbol. It has less to do with democracy than with the (argued) greatness of America and America's leaders (hence, the giant faces carved into the mountain).

 

[dragontail]

From the point of gameplay that makes a lot of sense. In Civ3 I never bothered to research fascism because it had absolutely no value to me. Now I'm forced to get it at some time just to be able to build Mt. Rushmore.

 

[MetHimPikeHoses]

Gutzon Borglum, who sculpted Mt. Rushmore, was a bigot and associated with the KKK... so the history of the monument isn't exactly a pristine story of American Democracy...

 

[Randle]

Gutzon Borglum, who sculpted Mt. Rushmore, was a bigot and associated with the KKK... so the history of the monument isn't exactly a pristine story of American Democracy...

That just goes to show you that it doesn't matter who you are, so long as you are the lowest bidder.

Who cares who the sculptor was if he did good work? I think it's more of an attestment to the freedoms we have/had here in the U.S. if we can look past someone's political and other views when it comes to employment.

 

[DBear]

Gutzon Borglum, who sculpted Mt. Rushmore, was a bigot and associated with the KKK... so the history of the monument isn't exactly a pristine story of American Democracy...

Yeah, right. If he was a KKK member, why would he put Lincoln on Mt. Rushmore? Kluxers DESPISE Lincoln.

 

[Runriot]

why democracy? america is a republic, not a democracy.
i was a bit curious as to why exactly fascism enabled mt.rushmore, but now it makes a lot more sense.

Whatever gave you that idea? The United States of America is a Representative Democracy.

Saying that the US is a republic is like saying The UK is still a feudal Monarchy (hint its a Constitional Monarchy)

 

[Silver Marmot]

Fascism is about taking extreme pride in ones country and ones leaders. So, considering that Mount Rushmore is a sculpture of the America's great leaders, it should fall under Fascism or Nationalism. Of course this doesn't mean America is a fascist nation, but that we take pride in our leaders.

Whatever gave you that idea? The United States of America is a Representative Democracy.

Saying that the US is a republic is like saying The UK is still a feudal Monarchy (hint its a Constitional Monarchy)

Actually, the United States is a Republic. We elect people who vote on decisions, such as war, taxes, welfare, etc. If it were a Democracy every American would be able to vote on every decision made by the government (which is why, of course, that the US is not a democracy, because we can't hold daily votes across the nation like we do in Congress).

 

[CrazyMrLeo]

Yeah, right. If he was a KKK member, why would he put Lincoln on Mt. Rushmore? Kluxers DESPISE Lincoln.

I'm pretty sure he was, actually. Look it up on google.

 

[I am the Future]

maybe because it shows the faces of the most glorious presidents and fascism wants to return a glorious past?

Exactly, well sorta. Fascism is raiseing a certain person up very high, So high that they are a supreme ruler. Well Washinton, lincoln, jefferson, and (?) are being raised up as the "greatest presidents" so they are put int stone and plaster in the side of a montain. Sure makes me proud to be an American.

Whatever gave you that idea? The United States of America is a Representative Democracy.

Saying that the US is a republic is like saying The UK is still a feudal Monarchy (hint its a Constitional Monarchy)

We area Republic, We are a republic of democratic states. Much in the same way that the EU is a republic of democratic nations. Same thing different continent. If we were a democracy, a) the states wouldnt exist and b) their would be no electorial college, no legislative branch, no executive branch, and no judicial branch, every single decision that had to be made could only be made by a vote of the people, and that just dosnt work.

 

[quazi]

It's facism because there are faces. Duh.