Why is The Discipline of History so Phallocentric?

[Narz]

other genders

There are really only two genders.

Why do you think we've focused so much on history at the expense of herstory?

Because, in general, men have controlled & dominated history more than women. Also, in general men are more interesting than women (obviously I don't believe it has to be this way, after all I have a daughter who I hope will be more interesting than almost any man, but it is this way now, my baby's mama for example grew up watching Lifetime movies & reading Elle, it's amazing & a testament to her spirit that I can even talk to her at all!)

 

[vogtmurr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States

Thgere are also a lot of families that prefer to be single income ones - where women take the role of full-time mothers or caregivers. But in any event a lot has changed and continues to change, it just won't happen overnight.

 

[Agent327]

There are really only two genders.

You seem to be forgetting about homosexuality and hermaphroditism.

 

[Plotinus]

Homosexuality isn't a gender!

 

[Lord Baal]

Homosexuality isn't a gender!

The latest trend in sociology seems to be classifying differeing types of sexuality as 'genders.' Just one of many reasons why sociology is the worst plague to strike humanity since the Black Death.

 

[holy king]

Thgere are also a lot of families that prefer to be single income ones - where women take the role of full-time mothers or caregivers. But in any event a lot has changed and continues to change, it just won't happen overnight.

this is income inequality between working people, not the overall pupulation. women doing the same job as men and earning less, you know?

 

[Masada]

The latest trend in sociology seems to be classifying differeing types of sexuality as 'genders.' Just one of many reasons why sociology is the worst plague to strike humanity since the Black Death.

Anything to justify continuing funding for their insipid discipline.

 

[Lord Baal]

Anything to justify continuing funding for their insipid discipline.

I firmly believe that around a month of classes on sociology would do most people a world of good, since they tend to get people thinking about things they've taken for granted in the past. The problem is that it serves pretty much no purpose from that point on. Applied sociology is okay - more like anthropology, really - but these idiots who propose theories which are based off other theories - despite there being only circumstantial evidence of the original theory - need to be brutally murdered as a warning to the others.

 

[Masada]

I firmly believe that around a month of classes on sociology would do most people a world of good, since they tend to get people thinking about things they've taken for granted in the past. The problem is that it serves pretty much no purpose from that point on. Applied sociology is okay - more like anthropology, really - but these idiots who propose theories which are based off other theories - despite there being only circumstantial evidence of the original theory - need to be brutally murdered as a warning to the others.

Us people in serious disciplines like economics have to compete for funding with those jokers.

 

[Lord Baal]

Us people in serious disciplines like economics have to compete for funding with those jokers.

Considering the stellar job you economists have done lately, you're lucky you even still get funding. A slightly worse crisis and they'd be putting my kind in camps again.

 

[vogtmurr]

this is income inequality between working people, not the overall pupulation. women doing the same job as men and earning less, you know?

I seriously doubt that my friend;

This statistic does not take into account differences in experience, skill, occupation, or hours worked, other than meeting requirement for "full time" work.

Such flimsy statistics are continually propagated without scrutiny, and harped on by very vocal groups who use it to claim we still live in a society where women and minorities are disadvantage, and despite affirmative action entrenched indefinitely, scream for more social engineering, all of which ignores simple freedom of choice.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Serious answer:

Biologically speaking, men have far more to gain from standing out from the crowd than do women in terms of propagating their genes, as a result of which by and large more men than women will stand out as historical figures. Histories that focus more on particular individuals will thus be more male-centered.

 

[holy king]

I seriously doubt that my friend;

Such flimsy statistics are continually propagated without scrutiny, and harped on by very vocal groups who use it to claim we still live in a society where women and minorities are disadvantage, and despite affirmative action entrenched indefinitely, scream for more social engineering, all of which ignores simple freedom of choice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States

The gender gap is usually expressed as the ratio of female to male earnings among full-time, year-round (FTYR) workers.

 

[xchen08]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States

However, they do not take into account the fact that the highest earners are also those who have been working the longest, and there hasn't been enough time since women started entering the workforce en mass. They also don't consider the way many women take maternity leave for periods that could be over a year, during which their skills deteriorate, and women who leave the work force for prolonged periods. The most commonly used statistics don't even consider the way the genders have differing concentrations in different segments of the job market. In other words, the stats are useless.

That said, I've seen genuine stats that do take relevant circumstances into consideration, and while I don't remember the exact numbers, there remains an income gap. Most likely, this is due to the old boys network that dominates the very highest income brackets, and not enough women have broken into it yet.

 

[Masada]

Considering the stellar job you economists have done lately, you're lucky you even still get funding. A slightly worse crisis and they'd be putting my kind in camps again.

That had nothing do with me. I work on Classical Southeast Asian history. Besides, I'd be in probably before you, I can't for the life of me manage to shut-up and in the Australian political context and the public imagination I'm part of a problem race. So thar.

 

[Lord Baal]

That had nothing do with me. I work on Classical Southeast Asian history. Besides, I'd be in probably before you, I can't for the life of me manage to shut-up and in the Australian political context and the public imagination I'm part of a problem race. So thar.

You Maoris are a problem. You helped Palpatine conquer the galaxy for God's sake. But, if you look on the bright side, as the son of a bank manager, I'm a 'Jewish financier.' I might as well kill myself now, because that pretty much makes me a dead man.

 

[Narz]

Serious answer:

Biologically speaking, men have far more to gain from standing out from the crowd than do women in terms of propagating their genes, as a result of which by and large more men than women will stand out as historical figures. Histories that focus more on particular individuals will thus be more male-centered.

That's a very good answer actually! Never thought of it from that perspective.

 

[Masada]

You Maoris are a problem. You helped Palpatine conquer the galaxy for God's sake. But, if you look on the bright side, as the son of a bank manager, I'm a 'Jewish financier.' I might as well kill myself now, because that pretty much makes me a dead man.

Hard that beat that I must admit. Manipulating world finance for your own nefarious gains yet?

 

[Lord Baal]

Hard that beat that I must admit. Manipulating world finance for your own nefarious gains yet?

Both capitalism and communism are part of that nefarious plot, indeed. Your master Palpatine was a novice compared to us.

 

[Slaughter]

Because men are, you know, better?

*prepares for incoming*