You can trade for the crabs because the crabs are actually useful to you and not merely an exploit of the ai.Before you could have traded for his fish which you didn't need and trade them to another civ gaining 2 lots relation bonuses.
Why would the AI do this?
- Thread starter QwertyKey
- Start date
You can trade for the crabs because the crabs are actually useful to you and not merely an exploit of the ai.Before you could have traded for his fish which you didn't need and trade them to another civ gaining 2 lots relation bonuses.
There are 2 reasons you would want more than 1 resouce:
1) For corporations
2) If you are the first to astronomy, you can buy multiple surplus resources from one continent and trade them in your own continent.
This game gets more and more appealing as it goes on... I NEED B T S !
1) For corporations
2) If you are the first to astronomy, you can buy multiple surplus resources from one continent and trade them in your own continent.
This game gets more and more appealing as it goes on... I NEED B T S !
Gaius Octavius
Deity
- Joined
- Jul 28, 2006
- Messages
- 4,016
Interesting... This could lead to some realistic trade relations.
Suppose you're trading on a map where Roosevelt has no copper, but several luxuries you want, and Asoka has extra copper. You are Gilgamesh.
You have no extra copper resources to offer Roosevelt, and no luxuries to trade for the ones you want. But you DO have resources Asoka wants. Could you trade something to him for extra copper, then trade that away to Roosevelt for the luxuries you want? It is brimming with possibilities.
I could also envision scenarios where you could get extra resources of what you already have just to sell it to other civs for gold per turn.
Suppose you're trading on a map where Roosevelt has no copper, but several luxuries you want, and Asoka has extra copper. You are Gilgamesh.
You have no extra copper resources to offer Roosevelt, and no luxuries to trade for the ones you want. But you DO have resources Asoka wants. Could you trade something to him for extra copper, then trade that away to Roosevelt for the luxuries you want? It is brimming with possibilities.
I could also envision scenarios where you could get extra resources of what you already have just to sell it to other civs for gold per turn.
Martinus
Emperor
Sounds cool - beeline to Astronomy and become everybody's favourite intercontinental middle man.
Well not everybody's favourite because they will go "You have traded with our worst enemy!!!
" but still. 
Well not everybody's favourite because they will go "You have traded with our worst enemy!!!
Fine, then we kill these guys, make them into a colony and have 100% monopoly over their resoucres, and they won't be
anymoreNot 100% sure on this but what i gather corporations need the resource to be in the city to be founded so trading for extra would not help.Also if you founded the corporation in his city he pays the expenses and you get the gold boast.
Just a question... Did you research Education yourself? If not, perhaps this is the (poorly implemented) way an AI tells you you can't give the tech to them because of the "no tech brokering" option.
Corporations give a bonus based on the number of resources you have.
So one corporation gives +0.75f per resource. I am pretty sure that having multiple of that resource counts although again I would have to say not 100%.
Martinus
Emperor
"Need the resource to be in the city" but in the same sense as you need iron "to be in the city" to build axeman - i.e. it does not need to be in your fat cross, but in the trade network connected to that city.
This means getting the resource from trading works.
Molon Labe
I committed the faux pas.
Why is he the leader of the French Empire?
icantdrawanime
Chieftain
- Joined
- Jun 20, 2007
- Messages
- 66
its good to see the AI isn't completely ******** any more with resources... =)
also good to know that they've made these new gameplay options amenable for the AI.
also good to know that they've made these new gameplay options amenable for the AI.
AlessioCerci
Prince
- Joined
- Jul 17, 2007
- Messages
- 416
Back to the OP, if you're on standard settings, maybe he is one turn from education and wants to avoid WFYABTA. (does that affect AI as well as humans?)
Zhahz
PC Gamer
I believe there's a new option that enables any leader with any civ, and it can probably randomize leaders the same way in games.
Molon Labe
I committed the faux pas.
Interesting. Seems like a bit of potential for abuse though. If I have Char/Agg Boudica with Praetorians, I feel pretty confident in a conquest win.
But I only play single player, so it's not like I can complain about abuse if I'm the one abusing. I'm all for more options and variations, so that's a twist I might check out.
There's a new randomizer, so you can have it randomized, the game will automatically pick a leader and a civilization not matched. Personally I find it very annoying, becuase I know the civilization by the leader and not the color. When someone says "We demand that you stop trading with the vile Aztecs" it's annoying to find out that Hannibal is leading the Aztecs. Just make the game feel off to me.
Welnic
Emperor
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2006
- Messages
- 1,057
You can do this now. Just trade the copper resource that you are using to Roosevelt for probably more than one of his luxury resources. Now you need copper, and Asoka will trade it to you.
magicalsushi
Prince
I didn't think that's how WFYABTA worked? My understanding is that it only takes place between pairs of leaders. For example, if I've traded past the WFYABTA limit with Louis, but never traded with Kublai at all, I'll still be able to make lots of trades with Kublai before hitting WFYABTA - he has no idea that I've also picked up lot of technology from Louis. I think that's how it works - the alternative scenario is that all of the AI leaders know exactly how many tech trades with made with *everyone*, and base WFYABTA on that, but I don't think it works that way. If I'm right, the AI won't experience any WFYABTA issues amongst themselves when they trade with you, because it won't affect their WFYABTA standing with each other, it'll only affect it with you - and human players don't usually impose petty WFYABTA limits on the AI.
That is how it works, if you replace "all of the AI leaders" with "all of the AI leaders I've met so far".
