AW Arcaeca
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If we have the civs go with a huge map it should be 12 civs, 24 citystates. I agree that the penguins and Crandor are stretches, and one of my concerns going in is that, if placed in the actual map, would the civs be balanced.
So we have a base 9 (Misthalin, Asgarnia, Kandarin, Fremennik, Tirannwn, Morytania, Kharidian, Karamja and Feldip), two more potential ones (penguins and Crandor)
From the 9, we could split the Kharidians up into the Al Kharid controlled area and the Pharoah/Menaphos. I personally want to raise the Tree Gnomes out of citystate status and into a civ. My only problem with the Zarosian is that its kinda hard to place, but otherwise its good. That would make 12 civs.
We can do any combination of the potential civs with the 9 definitive civs to get to 12, but we have to decide which 3 are going to be the final 3.
As a final note, I'm going to restart the civ map, looking at my old one that I published I need to rework it to be more specific
So we have a base 9 (Misthalin, Asgarnia, Kandarin, Fremennik, Tirannwn, Morytania, Kharidian, Karamja and Feldip), two more potential ones (penguins and Crandor)
From the 9, we could split the Kharidians up into the Al Kharid controlled area and the Pharoah/Menaphos. I personally want to raise the Tree Gnomes out of citystate status and into a civ. My only problem with the Zarosian is that its kinda hard to place, but otherwise its good. That would make 12 civs.
We can do any combination of the potential civs with the 9 definitive civs to get to 12, but we have to decide which 3 are going to be the final 3.
As a final note, I'm going to restart the civ map, looking at my old one that I published I need to rework it to be more specific
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I was going to say, if we could just rename king solomon's mines as Daemonheim they look close enough that it should work.
I suppose that would work, still somewhat against The Zarosian empire. Al Kharid is going to run into problems with city names as is the gnomish empire to a minor extent.
Funnily neither of them should have problems for spy names.
I suppose that would work, still somewhat against The Zarosian empire. Al Kharid is going to run into problems with city names as is the gnomish empire to a minor extent.
Funnily neither of them should have problems for spy names.
AW Arcaeca
Deus Vult
I'm all for the Zarosian Empire. 
They were huge in the second age, and still have ruins scattered everywhere. Plus Zaros is just awesome IMO.
It's kinda small, but this should give you an idea of the immensity of the Zarosian empire at its peak:
Crandor at this point I don't really care whether it lives or dies.
As for Daemonheim... we should probably also reskin it to be gray, covered in frost and snow.
They were huge in the second age, and still have ruins scattered everywhere. Plus Zaros is just awesome IMO.It's kinda small, but this should give you an idea of the immensity of the Zarosian empire at its peak:
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Crandor at this point I don't really care whether it lives or dies.
As for Daemonheim... we should probably also reskin it to be gray, covered in frost and snow.
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theres quite a few things wrong with that map but yes the Zarosian Empire was quite large. If were going to do it I'd suggest putting Azzanadra as the leader as it would prevent the really really weird cases of when the empire isn't Zarosian.
I'm still against the idea but I'm bias. It would rather clash with the fact that all of the other civs are 5/6th era and we're throwing one from 2nd.
I'm still against the idea but I'm bias. It would rather clash with the fact that all of the other civs are 5/6th era and we're throwing one from 2nd.
AW Arcaeca
Deus Vult
I'm not sure why that's a problem. Tirannwn and Fremenniks stretch all the way back to the 1st Age. (although yes, I'm aware that they've survived all the way through the 5th/6th era so that's reason for inclusion...) The frameworks for Misthalin, Asgarnia and Kandarin IIRC were set in the 4th Age, if not the 3rd. I don't think "It existed in the past" is reason for exclusion.
And, y'know, in normal civ you have 'Murica battling it out with ancient Rome, so...
Azzanadra as a leader would probably be best, so that we're not using a god as the leader. Second option might be Nex.
Speaking of which... should we compile Majharrat unique names?
And, y'know, in normal civ you have 'Murica battling it out with ancient Rome, so...
Azzanadra as a leader would probably be best, so that we're not using a god as the leader. Second option might be Nex.
Speaking of which... should we compile Majharrat unique names?
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So I've been playing around with the map of the game in 2007 (i can do it again for RS3, i just had a 2007 one on my computer), but anyway I have been playing around with grid overlays to see how the map would look.
Here is the map with a hexagon grid overlayed on it, I put red dots on all proposed civ capitals
I'm assuming the Zarosian empire's capital is close to the digsite, which puts it very close to Mortyania, Misthalin, and the Kharids. The Penguins and Crandor would be very limited in space.
Here is a more easily understandable picture, a hexagon grid over the map and color averaging inside the grids
Here you can see the tile spacing of all the civs. Of course that would exactly be the map (I'd like to make the main rivers coast tiles and expand places that need to be more obvious and such)
Here is the map with a hexagon grid overlayed on it, I put red dots on all proposed civ capitals
Spoiler :
I'm assuming the Zarosian empire's capital is close to the digsite, which puts it very close to Mortyania, Misthalin, and the Kharids. The Penguins and Crandor would be very limited in space.
Here is a more easily understandable picture, a hexagon grid over the map and color averaging inside the grids
Spoiler :
Here you can see the tile spacing of all the civs. Of course that would exactly be the map (I'd like to make the main rivers coast tiles and expand places that need to be more obvious and such)
Warden123
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I like the maps.
First- a wushanko civ. We have all the information on it, their leader is a lady called Quin, who united the isles using an elder artifact, and they have famous theaters and "death Lotus Assasins" Just need an icon.
Secondly, I think you're right about the Zarosian civ. Should the leader be Azzandra or nex though?
Great idea for daemonheim. Can we make kailash into White wolf mountain by reskinning it darker?
same with icemoutain, except kilmanjaro, and eagles' peak/uluru?
Sound good?
First- a wushanko civ. We have all the information on it, their leader is a lady called Quin, who united the isles using an elder artifact, and they have famous theaters and "death Lotus Assasins" Just need an icon.
Secondly, I think you're right about the Zarosian civ. Should the leader be Azzandra or nex though?
Great idea for daemonheim. Can we make kailash into White wolf mountain by reskinning it darker?
same with icemoutain, except kilmanjaro, and eagles' peak/uluru?
Sound good?
AW Arcaeca
Deus Vult
Why are there such huge chunks taken out of the North, the Hallows and Prifddinas?
We could probably use Krakatoa for the Wilderness volcano.
Leader should probably be Azzanadra.
We could probably use Krakatoa for the Wilderness volcano.
Leader should probably be Azzanadra.
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I am hoping that when do get around to making the map that I don't hear any 07 is better. Because at this point RS3 simply has more to work with. Also we cant really have void on the map.
Nex will likely be relegated to a great general. Heck we might even use her for something else, theres a lot of great generals in RS history but just the current ones and GDW bosses (although they will be used).
Natural wonder list:
Nex will likely be relegated to a great general. Heck we might even use her for something else, theres a lot of great generals in RS history but just the current ones and GDW bosses (although they will be used).
Natural wonder list:
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It's more of a city unfortunately. Keldagrim is in a bad spot. Its underground so its hard to put on the map.
Warden123
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ok...Anybody on the civs so far? I hope for 2 coded before march.
Also, think we should release the mod in several different packs? Like Civs, Art, And other stuff? Like communitas or faerun? It could garner extra popularity that way.
EDIT: started on Asgarnia.
Also, think we should release the mod in several different packs? Like Civs, Art, And other stuff? Like communitas or faerun? It could garner extra popularity that way.
EDIT: started on Asgarnia.
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