Wiz01- My first SG (Regent)

Yeah gorm, I was wondering about all those aquaducts too, but I just left them alone. Also, When I was taking my 2nd turn I got the message that one city just built the courthouse and it was right next to our capitol. Are we planning to go to commie in the future? Otherwise, what does a courthouse next to our capitol do for us?
 
Ok, I got it. Expect something tomorrow night....I am busy with Conquests :D
 
I can't play after tomorrow afternoon, so if zorven is fast enough, I'll *maybe* have time to play at least some turns. (going for a trip on the weekend)
 
Originally posted by Superevie
And you have a fab new avatar to go with it all. ;)

Thanks, I liked it too. It's my favorite character in an animation but I only recently decided to use him.
 
Question:

I just generated a Great Leader - do you have a preference of building an army or rushing ToE, or rushing something else?
 
ToE seems like the obvious choice, what are the other options?
 
Much has changed since I last played...

Pre-Turn:
Everything looks good, but we seem a bit thin on units in India.

IT:
Discover Sci Method, start on Industrialization at 40%, due in 7
Zimbabwe Bank - Cav
Madras riots.
Bengal flips back to India, lost at least an elite Sam
Sippar Cannon - Cannon

1255 (1)
Change Teotihuacan from Market to Cannon
Rush Temple in Bombay

Attack on Kolhapur:
Vet Cav dies
Vet Cav wins, losing 2hp, takes Kolhapur.

Elite Same defeats wondering longbowman.
Create a Cav army in Bombay

IT:
Bombay Temple - Musket
Tokyo Cav - Cav
Edo Bank - Musket
Nara Cathedral - Ironclad
Zariqum Cannon - Musket

1260 (2)
Rush Temple in Kolhapur
Capture 2 Indian workers
Pillage their only source of wine
Rush Temple in Madras
Moving troops to India

IT:
Madras Temple - Musket
Hamburg Library - Bank
Kolhapur Temple - Musket
Ashur Cannon - Musket
Matsuyama ? - Musket
Fukushima Court - Musket
Go-Yanks Court - Cav

1265 (3)
Attack on Bangalore (top defender is a reg spear)
Cav Army redlines !! killing one spear
Vet cav loses
Vet cav defeats last spear, takes Bangalore - We now own Sistine
Move troops

IT:
Berlin Cathedral - Cav
Isandhlwana University - Bank
Nagasaki Cav - Cav
Sapporo University - Musket
Toyama Cav - Cav
Bizen Court - Musket
Change a bunch of corrupt cities to workers

1270 (4)
Elite Sam kills vet longbow - generates GL
Move troops

IT:
Egypt offers Nationalism for Medicine - I will wait till our turn to decide.
Frankfurt Library - Musket
Kakodate Cathedral - Musket
The following cities completed a worker and began another:
Tenochitilan
Ninaveh
Texcoco
Tlaxcala
Ellipi
Uruk
Samarra
Atzcapotzalco
Lagash
Zariqum
Malinalco
Izumi
Echizen

1275 (5)
We have a monopoly on Medicine and everybody (except India) has nationalism. I don't think I will trade because it would involve 20 turn deals and Nationalism will ony take us 4 turns to reasearch.
Hurry Temple in Bangalore
Vet Cav kills vet longbow
Move troops.

IT:
Babylon Cannon - Worker
Ur Cannon - Worker
Toyko Cav - Cav
Bangalor Temple - Musket
Lahor resistance ends, but then riots due to war warriness
Edo Musket - Musket
Dacca riots
Munich Market - Court
Ise University - Musket
Kish Cannon - Worker
Omi Worker - Worker
Egypt completes Shakespear's Theater - we had 4 turns left

1280 (6)
Set research to 50% to get Industrialization in 1 instead of 2 (-60 gpt) so that I can convert Shakespeare's to Uni Suffrage next turn.
Odd - Attack Bengal with Cav, defeating lone defender (War Elephant) and leaving a frigate, but I do not take the city.

Attack on Chittagong
Vet Cav kills reg Musket
Vet Cav retreats vs reg Musket
Vet Cav retreats vs reg Musket
Elite Sam kills reg Musket, takes city and captures 6 workers

Sam army kills longbow on mountain
Vet Cav killed by Vet Cav

IT:
India and Egypt sign embargo against us.
We discover Industrialization
Leipzig switches to Uni Suff
Intombe Bank - Musket
Eridu Harbor - Worker

1285 (7)
Capture an empty Bengal
Rush Temple in Chittagong
Rush Temple in Lahore
Vet Cav kills reg Spear
Vet Cav kills reg Longbow
Dang - India has Riflemen in Jaipur

Ok - that is all I have time for this weekend. Wizard is up after me and said he wouldn't be able to play this weekend, so I suppose we could skip him.

There is a Great Leader in Karachi and we just started researching a new tech this turn, so the next player can change it to anything without losing any research.


The Save
 
Ok, skip me. I'm gooing to my grandparent's place and they don't have Civ, so skip me.

Gengis- you're up!
sabo-on deck
SE- on the bench
gorm
zorven- just played
Wizard(me)- can't play, skip me...:(
 
We are quite close to domination! I plugged the last save into MapStat and it says that we are 260 tiles away from landmass dom. and 70 pop away. Go get those Indians, Gengis! Tell em Superevie sent ya! :D
 
What happened to the TOE prebuild in Kyoto? I hope it was converted to TOE or we are rushing TOE. Either way we need to switch our research to Atomic Theory/Electronics queue.

Also Nationalism is the most worthless tech in Industrial ages don't bother. Hoove give 50% production to all our cities in the main continent. Without a doubt it is the most important Wonder in the Industrial Ages. I would swap the W Suff to Hoove if we can rush TOE, W Suff is pretty unnecessary considering we have 7 (if not 8) lux.
 
Got it. 260 tiles?? Pshaw! 3 more people's turns I tell ya.;)
 
So, it's you, sabo and SE. Let's see if yo can make it, or shall gorm get to play the last turn?:D
 
Don't worry I havn't forgotten about you guys.

I'm about to head to class & then have a full day of work, but I'll finish up my turns & post when I get home. It'll probably be around 8 or 9 o'clock(eastern).
 
Ok, I'll play when I get home tonight...

(I hope you guys appreciate this, I'm giving up precious time with conquests for this) :lol:

[edit] Oops sorry GK I didn't know you were up, maybe you can win this one for us ;)
 
*cough* GK *cough* play *cough cough* the *cough* turns *cough* faster! *cough*
 
Someone getting impatient for his first SG win??;)

Sorry about the delay, posting it now. :D
 
------Pre-turn:
Military Report: 170 units, of which only 60 are workers or settlers. Easily enough troops to finish wiping India off the planet.
Foreign Advisor: Cleo- 2 turns left on deal, up Nationalism on us/down Med & Steam Power. Mao- 2 turns left on lux deal, up N/down M & SP. Abe(next target)- 3 turns left on peace treaty(huh??), up Nat/down M & SP. I would trade for Nat since that’s what we’re researching, BUT I don’t want the AI cities growing above 12 & giving them a defense bonus/ nor do I want their production being doubled with railroads. We’ll self research Nat. Also when our peace treaty with Abe comes up for review in 3 turns, we’re going to war even if we’re not finished with Gandhi yet, I don’t want to get stuck in 20 turns of peace.

Set all Indian cities on starvation diets, & pull up about 40 additional gpt from tax collectors.

WW is up to 40% in some cities.:rolleyes:

IT- Watch as Indian longbows decimate a group of cavs without any defense next to Jaipur.
WW continues to rise & another city riots.*shrug*

1- Spot some rifles guarding cities, casualty rate just doubled for us.
Normally while I’d rush ToE with Tojo, I’m more inclined to go with Universal Suffrage for some reason.
Change Kyoto from ToE(17) to factory(1 & no waste).
Change Leipzig from US(22) to ToE(12). Saving us 5 turns off Theory.
Tojo rushes US in Babylon.
-As a side note Shimonsosike was prebuilding a palace(??), I’m guessing for Hoover. I switched it to a factory with a palace on queue so it will have many more shields when we’re ready for Hoover. Factory due in 3.

As a bit of constructive criticism who ever loaded up the galleys for assult on India was planning on a quick offensive sweep across the island met with little to no resistance. I have a ton of offensive troops at my disposal but next to no defensive or artillery. I think its better to plan for the worst and expect the best, then to be surprised by the enemy.

IT- Complete US.
Calcutta jumps ship back to the Indians. That’s what we get for not starving them.;)

2- Retake Calcutta, which comes with 4 resisters.
Cav army killed by reg rifle, without wounding it. Gotta love the RNG:rolleyes:
Vet cav kills the same rifle.
Take Jaipur, 9 resisters.
Capture Hyderabad, 5 resisters.

IT-Lose gems & wines. Basically we have to part with M or SP to get them back, & since it’s the IT they AI will sell them around. I decide to deal with a couple(I hope) cities rioting for 1 turn & renegotiate on my turn where I can trade Med to everyone.

3- Whew! Only 1 city rioted. Trade Med to Mao for Gems, Nationalism, 14gpt, & 63g. We could have gotten more but that’s all he had. I bump lux back to 0%, we were throwing away 155gpt at 20%! I’ll deal with unhappiness on a city by city basis & build some cathedrals if I have to. Trade Med to Cleo for 63gpt & 9g. Abe can offer 50gpt & 40g, I could give it to him for 40g to avoid the AI getting money for it, but I’d rather he have to buy it from the AI & throw his gpt to a civ we’re gonna be friendly with.
Start on Atomic Theory with Electricity for Hoover planned next. Due in 6 at 144gpt.

4- Capture Punjab, 2 resistors.
That leaves India with with only Indus, which just happens to be on the coast & border the heartland of America.

IT- Abe offers us Spices for furs & 100gpt.:rotfl: I didn’t know Abe was practicing stand-up!

5- 2 Galleons loaded up with troops to send to Indus, many more on the way.

IT- India dumps a sword & 2 warriors on their old island.:confused:

6- Troops step off ships next to Indus.

IT- Complete Military Academy!! I gotta say we didn’t pick the best city for the MA, you want it in your absolute most productive city. Although Osaka’s not bad by a long shot, not that it really matters at this point.:lol:

7- Capture Indus, 0 resistors. We have destroyed the weak Indians, I immediately turn my eye to America the beautiful.

IT- Abe demands we leave his territory. I, of course, graciously comply & watch Abe march a stack into our border. America has declared war on us. Woopie!! War-happiness when we already only had like 3 unhappy people in the whole continents.:lol:

Abe goes on a rampage, attacking our newly captured city over & over. Our troops hold their ground well but the cavs easily outnumber them 5 to 1. Finally a couple rifles die, then a cav, then 2 samarias, and we’re left with only a redlined musket……………….
Which Abe doesn’t attack, & decides he’d rather go after our newly landed stack with his last 2 attacks. ?!? WTH?! I was actually enjoying that until the AI had to go mess it up. Losing that city defiantly would have made the invasion harder & gave us some excitement at the end instead of just mowing them over. Leave it to the AI to throw away their only shot, it was a good sneak attack though.

8- :sleep: Not much, lick my wounds & get some more transports dumped.

IT- Sam army goes crazy & kills like 6 cavs before they even take one hp off him, well the cannons helped a little too.;)
Learn Atomic Theory. Start on Electronics due in 6.

9- Start march on Atlanta.

10- Troops ready to attack ATL next turn.

**End o’ turn Report!**
*If the next person can mop up about half the American cities(PLEASE starve them down this time) & then rush a temple as soon as the resistors have moved out they’ll probably achieve domination during their turn. And with some RNG luck you should have no problem with that(I left you 50 troops between Indus & Atl with more on the way).
*Theory of Evolution to be produced in 2 turns, Electronics due from research in 5 with 1 turn of research in it. Obviously this isn’t close to the timing we want. I suggest either putting research to zero until we get ToE, or slowing down ToE’s build by 3 turns if you can. It would be perfect if we can complete Theory the same turn as we research Electronics(for anyone that hasn’t done this you’ll get Electronics, then get to chose 2 additional bonus techs).
*Palace-Prebuilding for Hoover in Shimonosiki.

Good Luck!



My Katana!

[edit] Oh yea, there's "a few" troops on auto goto Akkad cause thats where I'm shipping them out of.
 
It is my opinion that it is bad strategy to have delayed TOE and hence Hoover for so long. I have no idea why everyone else do not like 50% more production for every city you own. In any case, victory is in the horizon. :goodjob:

On a side note, I would have cut research to zero, pump up luxury taxes to fight WW and when for TOE rush and switch TOE prebuild to Hoover. We are almost finishing this game. Research is totally a waste of time IMHO.

@GK

I tot I pulled more than 10 cities to be producing cannons. ALso, I intentionally left some sams unupgraded to provide protection for cavs.
 
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