Wonder Ideas for C2C

[Dancing Hoskuld]

then you had better add in all the other big universities et al and make them world wonders with the same stats but that can't be built by the same nation. Oh wait that is what a national wonder is.

 

[platyping]

I guess I have found what has "gone off the rails"?

Just having a name does not justify that a building is a World Wonder.
There are more than 100 schools in my country, and which school doesn't have a name?
In that case, there are 100 world wonders in my country alone.

Wonders like Leaning Tower of Pisa are World Wonders because they have something spectacular, majestic or 1000 years of history etc.
It is spectacular that it is still standing after hundreds of years despite slanting so much.

Anything you can say about Oxford University besides it is a "pretty good and famous" university in England?

But I won't argue further. It is your mod, so long as you are happy with your definition

 

[Hydromancerx]

then you had better add in all the other big universities et al and make them world wonders with the same stats but that can't be built by the same nation. Oh wait that is what a national wonder is.

Having world known Universities like Oxford or Cambridge should be world wonders. I always assumed that the university building is what you were talking about before with major universities. We could always add other types of education buildings like a college, high school, etc. However since not all countries have the same system I have not touched that.

 

[AIAndy]

Having world known Universities like Oxford or Cambridge should be world wonders. I always assumed that the university building is what you were talking about before with major universities. We could always add other types of education buildings like a college, high school, etc. However since not all countries have the same system I have not touched that.

What about if you could build a major university planning committee or a major stadium planning committee which is a national wonder. Now once you have built it, you have a selection of several named wonders and one generic one.You can only build one of them and the wonders might not count towards the wonder limit. The differences between them would be mostly flavor.

 

[Koshling]

Anything you can say about Oxford University besides it is a "pretty good and famous" university in England?

Third oldest university in the world. The older ones are arguably less famous currently, so reason to pick it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation

Having said that, I was at Cambridge, so screw Oxford

 

[Hydromancerx]

What about if you could build a major university planning committee or a major stadium planning committee which is a national wonder. Now once you have built it, you have a selection of several named wonders and one generic one.You can only build one of them and the wonders might not count towards the wonder limit. The differences between them would be mostly flavor.

I think a better way would be just to use the cannot build code and disallow say Oxford and Cambridge to be built in the same city. That way you could still build more than one famous University in your nation, but not in the same city.

 

[AIAndy]

I think a better way would be just to use the cannot build code and disallow say Oxford and Cambridge to be built in the same city. That way you could still build more than one famous University in your nation, but not in the same city.

Well, the point was to have named wonders that are more national wonders than world wonders without every nation building the same named wonder at the same time.

 

[Vokarya]

As I said, I was working on Las Vegas Strip. I just finished the Strip and Monte Carlo and committed them to the SVN. For the longest time, I thought the Legalized Gambling tech needed SOMETHING to jazz it up.

Here's Monte Carlo.
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Here's Las Vegas Strip. I found a building model for this, so I used it. I'm not completely sure of my L-System, but the one I used seems to work, so I'm sticking with it.

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Of course, both of these casinos would not be complete without a jackpot. You get a bigger haul if someone hits the jackpot at Vegas than someone breaking the bank at Monte Carlo.

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[Hydromancerx]

Those are awesome Vokarya! Can you please do Luxor and the Stratosphere too? I know they are technically on the Vegas Strip but they are landmarks in their own right.

 

[Vokarya]

Those are awesome Vokarya! Can you please do Luxor and the Stratosphere too? I know they are technically on the Vegas Strip but they are landmarks in their own right.

I'm not a really big fan of "snowclone" wonders (same effect, different name). If I can think of a really different effect, I'll do it. I'd rather clean out my own backlog of ideas -- I've got about 30 more that I want to lay out, get the buttons and movies made, and figure out how many new XML tags I need to ask for.

I think these two can be worked with because they are much newer. Legalized Gambling is the middle of the Modern Era (on the same column as Nuclear Power and Satellites), and these are looking closer to the end of the Modern Era.

 

[Vokarya]

Here's an example of a different effect. How can you get Espionage points and Great Spy points from Railroad? The Orient Express.

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[Hydromancerx]

I'm not a really big fan of "snowclone" wonders (same effect, different name). If I can think of a really different effect, I'll do it. I'd rather clean out my own backlog of ideas -- I've got about 30 more that I want to lay out, get the buttons and movies made, and figure out how many new XML tags I need to ask for.

I think these two can be worked with because they are much newer. Legalized Gambling is the middle of the Modern Era (on the same column as Nuclear Power and Satellites), and these are looking closer to the end of the Modern Era.

I did not say the Luxor and Stratosphere should have the same stats, in fact I think they should have their own unique stats. I mean one is a modern Pyramid with a huge beam of light coming out the top. Seems like a Wonder to me.

 

[Vokarya]

I did not say the Luxor and Stratosphere should have the same stats, in fact I think they should have their own unique stats. I mean one is a modern Pyramid with a huge beam of light coming out the top. Seems like a Wonder to me.

I'm leaning towards National Wonders for the individual Strip mega-casinos. I can see three different options:

• You can ONLY build mega-casinos in the city with Las Vegas Strip, using the <BuildingClassNeededs> tag. Sort of a "customize your own Strip" scenario.
• You can build mega-casinos in any city once you build the Strip, using the <PrereqBuildingClasses> tag.
• You can build the mega-casinos anywhere, but use <GlobalBuildingExtraCommerces> to grant a bonus if you control the Strip. This would also allow them to be built by other players than the Strip controller.

Opinions, anyone?

 

[Vokarya]

Well, I got several more Wonders done and I'll be pushing them to the SVN later today (I need to finish an update to Alcatraz). I'll post screenshots here to show what I've done. I also thought that these Wonders all deserve a little musical introduction. Sing along if you know the tune!

I like French films
Pretentious, boring French films
I like French films
Three tickets, s'il vous plaît...

Cannes Film Festival. Who says movies can't be art?

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Well, they'll stone you when you're tryin' to be so good
They'll stone you just like they said they would
They'll stone you when you're tryin' to go home
Then they'll stone you when you live there all alone
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned!

Rosetta Stoned, that is. This was a case of "saw something very similar in an old issue of Dragon Magazine, decided to adapt it." We haven't done a whole lot with the Language civics yet. This comes at the end of the Renaissance Era, so the civics it unlocks are Language Education and Universal Translator.

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[Vokarya]

Or if you prefer something more accessible to the masses...

It's a world of laughter, a world of tears
It's a world of hopes and a world of fears
There's so much that we share that it's time we're aware
It's a small world after all...

Disneyland. I went with Disneyland over Disney World for two reasons. First, Disneyland WAS built first, and second, it gives me something to put into the Animation tech. (It also requires Civil Engineering to build something of this size).

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And don't discount the power of a good advertising slogan.

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This was a surprisingly complicated event to make. I initially wanted it to trigger if anyone owned Disneyland, but I decided that was impossible. I also had to separate the +1 happy in the hometown hero's city from the +5 commerce for Disneyland because the event picks a city, but it wouldn't boost Disneyland unless the wonder was in the city picked.

 

[Vokarya]

That was just the beginning.

I love you
You love me
We're a happy family...

...wait. Not Barney. Blarney. Blarney Castle, that is.

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I found out when I was testing this Wonder that the "Air Recon" category is actually empty. So only Espionage units will get the Deception promotion.

I also will be adding one more entry to the Random Events python file, to trigger this every 50 turns:

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The event picks a random leader, then gives you a 50% chance for a +1 relations benefit with that leader. I tried to make it work with just XML, but it wouldn't cycle, so there's a Python callback just to tell the event to only go off every 50 turns.

 

[Vokarya]

Jurassic Park is frightening in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone shut the fence off in the rain...

This is my take on Jurassic Park. I prefer Dinosaur Park, since not all dinosaurs were Jurassic. While it isn't possible to get dinosaur DNA short of time travel, we HAVE time travel. I know this is all the way at the end of the tech tree, so I made it a pretty big wonder. I'm actually not sure if I went too low on this one.

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On the other hand, Ice Age megafauna are not out of theoretical cloning, merely practical. In fact, Pleistocene Park is a real project going on in Siberia right now. I wanted Pleistocene Park to give a bonus to the Ice Age megafauna trainers (not Giraffe or Zebra Trainer), but they go obsolete as soon as you can build the Park. I suggest moving the obsolescence to Artificial Life.

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Of course, accidents are always an issue with the parks.

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[Vokarya]

We could be sleeping in the flowers
We could sleep all afternoon
You proclaim that you're an island
I proclaim that I'm one too

Giverny. Home to Claude Monet and his garden. I'm not a big fan of the "X's Y" school of Wonder naming, especially if X shows up as a Great Person a century later on the other side of the world. So I went with the community name.

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So goodbye! (Fare-thee-well!) There's no time for delay
You'll see me at the faceoff, or catch a play-by-play
So goodbye! (Fare-thee-well!) I'm glad you shared my bed
But never trust a fellow with a helmet on his head

I really liked Hockey Night in Canada as a Wonder. I did think that it could be modified to take advantage of the buildings that we have in C2C. So if you want Hockey Night, you'd better have hockey. I took the game text and images from the Canada mod and added my own ideas on the code.

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[Vokarya]

Oh no, they say he's got to go go go Godzilla!
Oh no, there goes Tokyo go go Godzilla!

I didn't include a Godzilla event, but if I did, this is where he'd go.

Tokyo Tower.

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And its bigger brother, the just-completed Tokyo Sky Tree. It fits nicely with the Broadcast Tower -> Communications Tower upgrade. I don't know if we need a third wonder for when Communications Towers upgrade to Network Nodes.

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So that's all of my contributions for this cycle. I still have a lot of ideas that I'd like to include, but they're not quite finished yet.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Great work as always. Now the Zizkov Television Tower is not alone.

On the other hand, Ice Age megafauna are not out of theoretical cloning, merely practical. In fact, Pleistocene Park is a real project going on in Siberia right now. I wanted Pleistocene Park to give a bonus to the Ice Age megafauna trainers (not Giraffe or Zebra Trainer), but they go obsolete as soon as you can build the Park. I suggest moving the obsolescence to Artificial Life.

I was thinking of having extensions to the Zoo for the various ice age megafauna. That could be built if you ever had one of the various types but have not gotten round to it. The bonuses could go on those buildings.