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Wonder Music Revealed......

Discussion in 'Civ2 - General Discussions' started by Smash, Aug 15, 2001.

  1. Smash

    Smash Super Lurker Retired Moderator

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    I went on an e-mail fishing trip and this is what I caught <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif" border=0>

    from Tim Train

    ....Most of the wonder movie music was inspired by certain pieces--we actually
    mocked them up using the pieces as placeholder, and then the music guys composed music that is "in the style of" that piece.

    Pyramids: inspired by Peter Gabriel's "The Feeling Begins" from the Passion soundtrack.
    Hanging Gardens: I can't quite remember the inspiration, but I think it was from one of those Bamboo Flute compilations. Mike?
    Colossus: Inspired by the "Main Title" from Last of the Mohicans soundtrack
    The Lighthouse: Inspired by "Elk Hunt" from Last of the Mohicans soundtrack
    Great Library: Inspired by "Sheeta's Decision" from the Laputa: Castle in the Sky soundtrack. Personal plug: Laputa: Castle in the Sky is one of my favorite movies, ever, and has a phenomenal soundtrack. It was directed by Hayao Miyazaki, who also did the more famous "Princess Mononoke". It's not currently available in the US, but the rights are owned by Disney and I hope they eventually release it.
    Oracle: I'm surprised no one got the inspiration for this one: "Theme From Harry's Game" by Clannad. :).
    Great Wall of China: Inspired by Peter Gabriel's "Gethsemane", from the Passion soundtrack.
    Sun Tzu's War Academy--I'm pretty sure this is also inspired by Gethsemane, but I'm not going to click through all 21 tracks on that album to be sure :)
    King Richard's Crusade: "Dance of the Furies" by Gluck, from Orfeo. One of my fave classical pieces. Christopher Hogwood and the Academy of Ancient Music do a killer version of this.
    Marco Polo: Inspired by "The Kiss", from the Last of the Mohicans soundtrack.
    Michaelangelo: Some damn baroque thing. Don't remember what or who.
    Copernicus: I'm pretty sure this is inspired by the Laptua soundtrack again--Track 12. It may also be inspired by "The Glade, Part II" from the Mohicans soundtrack again. We were pretty into the Mohican soundtrack on this project.
    Magellan's Expedition: Inspired by "Promentory" on Mohicans.
    Darwin: Aaargh. You're going to keep me up all night long trying to remember this one.
    Eifel: I'm pretty sure this was just some random accordion music.
    Women's Suffrage: Inspired by "Swing At The Daisy Chain" by Count Basie & His Orchestra
    Hoover Dam: This was actually inspired by a track on the Mechwarrior 2 soundtrack. Those guys did an awesome job on their music. And it's still one of the best opening animations I've ever seen.
    Manhattan Project: This was inspired by a Morphine track, either "Bo's Veranda" or "I Had My Chance" from the Get Shorty soundtrack.
    United Nations: I'm pretty sure this was inspired by the main title to Laputa. But I'm not 100% sure on that one.
    Apollo Program: Inspired by the beginning of "Telegraph Road", by Dire Straits. Random memory: we briefly thought about licensing the 80s song "Major Tom" by Peter Schilling for this clip. When put with that music, the clip is much more celebratory and fun. This somber version is probably more appropriate, but very different.
    SETI: I think this was another "inspired by Mechwarrior 2" track.
    Cure for Cancer: I think this was inspired by another Clannad track, but I wouldn't swear to it.

    Tim



    He also confirmed Leonardo's is inspried by cantaloop.

    and this from Michael Ely:


    Howdy Smash and Tim

    Good catch on the cantaloop!

    The Morphine track for Manhattan Project was "I Had My
    Chance." I'm also pretty sure that the Cure for Cancer
    was Clannad. As Tim points out, the music can really
    change the flavor of a movie. From what I remember the
    Apollo Project wasn't even re-edited from the original
    version (which did in fact use the "Earth below us"
    chorus from Major Tom). Yet, the feel is very
    different.

    At one point some QA guys wanted us to switch the
    music for Manhattan Project and Hoover Dam because
    they thought that MP needed "more dramatic music
    befitting the most destructive weapon ever produced by
    mankind," or something like that. But, the MP movie
    was meant to be on the dark side. Incidentally, the
    Morphine track has a lot of intense wailing sax that
    couldn't be replicated with digital sounds, so a
    guitar sound was used instead.

    I don't remember what track was used for Hanging
    Gardens either; I'll have to give it a listen.

    Glad you like the wonder movies. This brought back
    some memories, especially of the mechwarrior
    soundtrack and Tim's much-used copy of Last of the
    Mohicans!

    multimedia mike


    Thanks guys!!! mystery solved more or less <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>



    [This message has been edited by Smash (edited August 16, 2001).]
     
  2. moof

    moof Guest

    COOLARAMA SMASH

    We will get to work and edit those comments into the thread "Wonder Movie Tunes"

    The only one we were hot the trail of besides
    the SOL was the Basie tune for Sufferage.

    We are nearly positive it is included in Ken Burn's PBS "Jazz" Series.

    A Big Thanks to Tim Train & Michael Ely

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  3. Thunderfall

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    This is fantastic! Good job, Smash.

    I am gonna convert it to HTML and add it to the site.
     
  4. Smash

    Smash Super Lurker Retired Moderator

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    hahaha..Last of the Mohicans.Its a good movie and an excellent soundtrack

     
  5. moof

    moof Guest

    Smash,

    We got all the info from your post here added to the other thread. Was that OK to do ?

    We still need some confirmation on some of the tunes and a few movies
    "Hanging Gardens" " Mike's Chapel " & " Darwin's " are yet to be identified.

    Should we start over here with a new copy of the post with all the info on it or keep working at Vrylakas' thread ?

    Here is the link to it by the way.

    Other Wonder Tunes Thread

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    and I'm not sure about the former. " - Albert Einstein
     
  6. Vrylakas

    Vrylakas The Verbose Lord

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    Great work Smash! In one fell swoop you've virtually wiped out our list. I was amazed when I saw the headline on the Main page!



    Thunderfall: I was going to suggest that if we could round most of the originals up, perhaps they could be posted on this site as MP3s, alongside the original Civ II MP3s - but then I remembered that little issue of copyrights....

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  7. Cunobelin Of Hippo

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    Cool. I remember watching "Last of the Mohicans' in History class and thinking 'wow! what a soundtrack!'. I guess I wasn't the only one
     
  8. Superfan99

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    Also, Adam Smith's Trading Company: The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba by Handel.
     
  9. XavierV

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    I seriously apologize for necroposting this, but popping out my old Civ II CD and playing it, I'm watching all the wonders and I wondered where all the music came from for those.

    I stumbled upon this thread and looked up most of the tunes for those (including the previously necroposted "Adam Smith's Trading Co.".. There is a link provided in "moof's" thread that no longer works. Because the search function has been disabled, I've been digging through every thread to find this topic (and still am at this time).

    Unfortunately, I don't intend to stick around here very long, and I would like to have that complete list ... somewhere. Thank you.
     
  10. rockpants

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    Sorry to bump up an almost 3-year old thread, but I'm a music lover so I have to give credit where it's due.

    The Wonder Movie music for Leonardo's Workshop is a sound-alike of a tune by jazz great Thelonious Monk. Unfortunately, the name of it escapes me now.

    The "Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia)" song by Us3 from the early 90's sampled it, as well as several other jazz masters, for their record "The Ultimate Hand on the Torch".
     
  11. Ren

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    Also missing is the music from the JS Bach's Cathedral movie. It's (inspired by?) part of Tocatta And Fugue In D-Minor written by Bach.
     
  12. Jezmonster

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    I actually think the song "Cantaloop" by US3 uses the tune from Herbie Hancock's "Cantaloupe Island". I am not sure about the Thelonious Monk. That is too far back for me.
     
  13. georyan

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    It's probably been quite a while since this was last viewed.

    If these were never answered:
    The piece used for Michelangelo's Chapel is the Credo from Palestrina's Missa Papae Marcelli. People with Civ 4 may have figured that out, as the piece is used during the Middle Ages.

    I also think that Newton's University is missed. The piece there is from Vivaldi's 12 concerti grossi. It is Op 3., Allegro, 'L'estro armonico', No. 10 for 3 violoins in B minor. Its probably easier to find that one by RV580.
     
  14. jkp1187

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    Also -- I believe the music for the Statue of Liberty was El Capitan by John Phillip Sousa.
     

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