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Wonders of the Ancient World deity walkthrough?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Genghis_Sean, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. claudiupb

    claudiupb King

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    I remember I did Immortal with the Hittites on a randomized map. They get a production bonus so that helps a lot. The science Wonders are off the table, but you can easily get Oracle, and the Military ones (just declare war on the first CS you meet and farm XP there). You can also get the Colossus if no one has a good city on the coast. If someone is hoarding wonders, you can just take them by conquest, with 3 self built wonders and at least one conquered you should win it (unless someone is building all the other wonders, but you can just take them as they will likely be in one city).

    On Emperor you can try Sumer, you will have a decent shot at the Scientific wonders and with the temples you can also get the cultural ones.
     
  2. Yashato

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    Ohh god this sucks.. I tried with Hittites and I was beaten to the economic ones, and the cultural ones, I'm going to try your strategy now to see if I can get this done. Can you recommend any specific start rolls? Like marble with coast? or does stone starting rolls with coast work?

    Also if possible and I hope I'm not asking for too much, but do you have a save that you can spare for your starting positions? I know it's going to take me so many rolls to get a good start, let alone a good coastal one. And If I'm going to take cities I might as well do it with Persia since their Immortals are pretty OP and seem to be the best warriors for this scenario.
     
  3. claudiupb

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    I don't have the saves, I did it a long time ago, and I lost some of the old saves.

    You can try conquering but don't rely solely on that because the original builder of the wonders gets to keep points for the wonder, so even though with Persia it is easier to conquer cities, with Hittites you have extra hammers from horses and iron, so you get more production done. Their UU is pretty cool also, you can offset the 25% penalty when attacking cities with the statue of Zeus.

    I think 3 wonders built by yourself and getting a city with wonders should be enough to win. On a random map the behavior is not so deterministic, so you can try the historic map, I remember that Persia used to get the majority of wonders done, so on the historical map you know who the target is. But of course this means you have to build the Great Lighthouse in a different city, not in the capital (so you might not get it).
     
  4. Yashato

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    Alright thanks anyways and to be honest I don't see how other people farmed XP from CS since I only have one warrior (On turn 36 currently with 5 turns to go until Oracle to be built with Alexander declaring war on me in the very beginning, to which I repelled him and he retreated earning me a bit more XP) and the CS just built and archer so that makes it extremely difficult to farm and not get killed without running back and forth. I think it's obvious that I would need to build a couple of more military units and go around DoW'ing CS's and camping outside barb camps. Is this a good strategy?

    In all honesty the chances of my spawning near a coast with horse production are slim to none (55th re-roll btw) And I agree warfare is a waste of time unless you're on Prince or lower. I'll try the Persia method on Emperor.

    If this one doesn't work for me then I will try the second strategy you just suggested. And if that one doesn't work I guess I'll have to resort to my cheesy Egypt city trap method -.-
     
  5. reddishrecue

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    CS XP farming with units I imagine is by using ranged units I guess since its much easier to farm XP with ranged units because city bombardment. CS XP farming takes patience because CSes don't always make that much units but if you stay at war with them and let them grow, eventually the CS will pop out with a unit or two and try to plunder your lands.
     
  6. Yashato

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    I just got every single achievement for Wonders of the Ancient World. Thank you for suggesting the Emperor guide It worked for me. Now I'm moving on to Fall of Rome. (I'm doing historical to modern scenarios in that order. Hopefully Rome won't give me a hard time lol)
     
  7. claudiupb

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    Actually the Pax Romana Aeternum is one of the hardest scenario achievements in the game. For me the hardest have been Praise the Victories (winning with the Boers in the Scramble for Africa scenario) and Pax Romana Aeternum. I replayed the first 10 turns a lot. But by turn 15 it was pretty clear it was going to happen (you don't actually need to win, you need to have the combined score of both roman empires greater than any other score, the Sassanids are most likely the contender). But still, it was a lot of work.
     
  8. Yashato

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    Damn it looks like you're right! Fall of Rome was way harder than Wonders of the Ancient World because to win all you need is a good starting location, but for Fall of Rome, Good Grief it was harder than I thought it was going to be. I achieved everything for FoR though and now I'm doing everything for Paradise Found. It's a bit boring but interesting because once you get Frigates and Riflemen you pretty much dominate everything.

    And now I also need help with the 1066: Viking Destiny scenario on Deity, it's confusing, well sort of.
     
  9. zxcvbob

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    I just got the Immortal achievement, thanks to the tip about moving the starting settler east to a hill by the the Red Sea. Also the part about taking the left side of Honor for extra XP to unlock the military wonders quicker.

    I had almost won settling in place with Egypt, but someone beat me to the Great Lighthouse by 2 turns and surpassed my score. Whenever I play the Hittites there is no iron anywhere near my start, and whenever I play anybody on a random map, everybody takes turns declaring war against me; I can keep them from capturing my cities, but I can't get anything else accomplished.

    My most fun game was at emperor with Sumeria, building wonders and fighting with the Persians. The domination victory at settler-level with Alex wasn't bad either; the hardest part of that game was waiting for the AIs to build wonders so I could steal them (for the Reverse Engineer achievement)

    The Legalism policy seems to be broken in this scenario. If I already have a monument and have not yet researched whatever unlocks temples (I think it's Philosophy), I never get a free culture building in that city. When I play a deity game to get the last achievement, I may skip building a monument in my capital, then take Legalism before Aristocracy.
     
  10. claudiupb

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    I think that was a bug in civ5 vanilla, and since this scenario does not have the GNK and BNW expansions, this it is not patched.
     

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