Worker cap [Slowdown turn related]

[sloul]

Hello everybody,



I've poster this same topic in ''technical support'' < CIV 4 forums, but so far no answers.
I also wanted to share it here as I know not everybody check t.s. forums.
If my idea is correct/good it might help a lot of people, so here was my question/idea:

Hello everybody,

I'm new to CIV4, I in fact bought the game in order to play Fall From Heaven mods.
Though I fell in love for those mods I stoped 3 mid games because of the AI turns taking too much time (1-2 min a turn).
At this point, im pretty sad, I love the game, but can't afford to wait that time between turns.

Anyway, I made some research and got to the conclusion that this problem is well known, also rade the thread on these forums about fixing tips (pagefile and stuff).
But I found something pretty interesting: http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread...-some-evidence
After runing some tests the author concluded that the main reason of the turns being so slow might be the AI workers.


My idea is to add a worker cap, I was thinking about 4 or 5 per civ.
Is there any way to do that with XML files?
If yes, would there be additional change to do with FFH mods?
When I think of it there are many kind of workers in FFH (golems, elven workers etc.).


Thanks for your answers.

original thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=11962699#post11962699



After making the initial thread, could not wisthand the fact that I couldn't touch the game, so instead I made a new game on ''standard'' map size and so far it is ok.
400+ turns and the waiting time is 30seconds < I can handle that
Though I love playing huge maps in 4x.

 

[Lone Wolf]

The AI worker slowdown issue is in Civ5, not in Civ4. Note that the thread you're referring to (http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?94139-Turn-Slowdown-AI-Workers-some-evidence) is in "Civ V General Discussion" subforum.

Large maps also work fine for me, BTW.

 

[sloul]

I think there might be the same issue on CIV IV this is worth the try.
If anyone reading this thread happens to know a way to cap/limit a certain kind of unit, please let me know.

 

[Lone Wolf]

If anyone reading this thread happens to know a way to cap/limit a certain kind of unit, please let me know.

In

Beyond the Sword\Mods\Fall from Heaven 2\Assets\XML\Units\CIV4UnitClassInfos.xml

There's a

<UnitClassInfo>
<Type>UNITCLASS_WORKER</Type>
<Description>TXT_KEY_UNIT_WORKER</Description>
<iMaxGlobalInstances>-1</iMaxGlobalInstances>
<iMaxTeamInstances>-1</iMaxTeamInstances>
<iMaxPlayerInstances>-1</iMaxPlayerInstances>
<iInstanceCostModifier>0</iInstanceCostModifier>
<DefaultUnit>UNIT_WORKER</DefaultUnit>
</UnitClassInfo>

That's the unit class, so golems and elven workers are already counted for (they're also unitclass_worker).

iMaxPlayerInstances variable governs the capping per player. Setting it to 4, for example, would allow everyone to build no more then 4 workers.

 

[sloul]

Ok, next game im going to try huge map with this and see what happens hitting the 400's turns.
Thanks Lone Wolf.

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

did you try Master of Mana? it has a supply limit mechanic that you should like a lot..

 

[Sephi]

if the AI has 1 worker or 100, it makes little difference because AI doesn't calculate values for every individual worker. 2kgames forum has more trolls than clan of embers

 

[CurseUppl]

What processor do you have? Must be an ancient single or dual core. Even with Gulftown I barely experienced slowdown with 30 AI, and with Sandy Bridge slowdown is negligible even after 1000 turns on marathon.