World Cup 2010 Qualification - Europe

yay. 2 - 0

I was almost giving up hope when they couldn't seem to score with a man more for half the game...

but still, nothing's won. Switzerland has the harder remaining opponents (Israel, Latvia)
 
LastOne, Northern Ireland are actually a very good team at full strength. Poland, though they looked rather impotent most of the match and were very lucky to draw the game, played ok. You are like a Scandinavian team; you are a big and strong team who can pass well, but unlike the Denmark of 1986 to 2000, you lack creativity, technique and finishing prowess needed to succeed consistently against high quality sides.

EDIT: Iceland 1-1 Norway
One of the reasons I didn't think Norway would cause Scotland much problem was that I suspected Iceland would damage Norway ... that's what usually happens in "derby" games where the weaker country often performs better (just like the Central European Slavic derbies in the Northern Ireland group). I also thought Scotland would take at least 10 points from our four games against Norway and Macedonia. We took 4. :( So the result isn't that bad for Norway. If Holland beat Scotland, as frankly looks likely, all they need to do is beat Macedonia to finish 2nd (though it isn't very likely they will get a play-off place!) ... the point against Iceland keeps them in touch and they have a goal difference and head-to-head advantage that will put them above Scotland. On the other hand, Scotland have a slight incentive to get a draw against Holland, which they didn't have before. It's not that great because they probably need to win to stand a chance of not being the worst 2nd place team, but nonetheless it is something that will give the Scots something to play for even if they fall behind to a Dutch goal, or give them something to lose that will prevent them taking too many high risks. In my lifetime we have never lost a competitive home game where we haven't been forced to take high risks in attack.
 
I can't believe this. For once, France really played well, we dominated during the whole game. Romanians were totally inexistent. We scored the first goal on a header from Thierry Henry. And then, A French defender scored the crappiest own goal I've ever seen.

The result :
France 1 - 1 Romania

France is out of the race for the 1st place in the group. Serbia is qualified.
 
Marla, France are perfectly capable of beating Serbia in few days time, and if they do it's only one point. And then Serbia have to play the same Romania at home game, and have to play Lithuania away. Sure, you've made it risky for yourselves, but it's far from over.
 
Well that's us right out of the race. Terrible performance throughout the qualification (bar the scotland game). Good night.
 
Will the runner-ups be drawn at random to play against each other?
 
Will the runner-ups be drawn at random to play against each other?

All except the worst placed one (defined by its record against the top five sides in their respective groups). So only 8 of the 9 second place teams battle it off. I believe the most likely casualty will either be #2 Group 1, #2 in Group 3 or #2 in Group 9. The causality will be most likely be Group 9, and almost certainly will be if Scotland fail to beat Holland. This is why Scotland's defeat to Norway a few weeks ago was a greater triumph for many others teams than it was for Norway! ;)

I don't think we know if the teams will be drawn randomly against each other or seeded. They usually aren't seeded, but it is my understanding that the authorities are free to seed them if they want. I.e., I don't think there are set rules about it that the authorities are forced to follow.
 
LastOne, Northern Ireland are actually a very good team at full strength. Poland, though they looked rather impotent most of the match and were very lucky to draw the game, played ok. You are like a Scandinavian team; you are a big and strong team who can pass well, but unlike the Denmark of 1986 to 2000, you lack creativity, technique and finishing prowess needed to succeed consistently against high quality sides.

That is the problem, we shouldn't be! We are no Scandinavian team! We are a country as big as France, England, Germany, Spain and Italy and we should be as good as them to! And we were in the past!


Link to video.
 
That is the problem, we shouldn't be! We are no Scandinavian team! We are a country as big as France, England, Germany, Spain and Italy and we should be as good as them to! And we were in the past!


Link to video.

Yeah, I know. Whatever the reason is, you're not producing enough players with top-class quality technique. You should be, but you're not. Not even like your neighbours Ukraine and Czech Republic. I've no idea why. Why does 5 million Croatia produce so many great players, but 38 million Poland so few? Why is the gulf in quality between Austria and Portugal, countries with roughly the same population, so huge? Why is the gulf in technical quality between Portugal and Poland so high in the former's favour but the latter has four times the population? It's something to do with how many children play, how they play, how they are coached and how they are nurtured. Who knows what though. If you can figure it out, tell the Scottish Football Association too. :goodjob:
 
I can't believe this. For once, France really played well, we dominated during the whole game. Romanians were totally inexistent. We scored the first goal on a header from Thierry Henry. And then, A French defender scored the crappiest own goal I've ever seen.

The result :
France 1 - 1 Romania

France is out of the race for the 1st place in the group. Serbia is qualified.

wouldnt it be freaking hilarious if you came in third.... :mischief:

no, i dont actualy believe this. but still. freaking hilarious!
 
That is the problem, we shouldn't be! We are no Scandinavian team! We are a country as big as France, England, Germany, Spain and Italy and we should be as good as them to! And we were in the past!

come on, following this logic, ukraine should have one a few world cups as well...
 
Yeah, I know. Whatever the reason is, you're not producing enough players with top-class quality technique. You should be, but you're not. Not even like your neighbours Ukraine and Czech Republic. I've no idea why. Why does 5 million Croatia produce so many great players, but 38 million Poland so few? Why is the gulf in quality between Austria and Portugal, countries with roughly the same population, so huge? Why is the gulf in technical quality between Portugal and Poland so high in the former's favour but the latter has four times the population? It's something to do with how many children play, how they play, how they are coached and how they are nurtured. Who knows what though. If you can figure it out, tell the Scottish Football Association too. :goodjob:
come on, following this logic, ukraine should have one a few world cups as well...
I think I can answer both at the same time.

No it shouldn't, it depends on the youth system I think. Poland has a horrible youth system, (and so does Ukraine, but they have russian billionaires sponsoring) and terrible coaches and scouts (for clubs, not national team) and to top it all, our guys just can't beat other teams or play with eachother.

I bet you if we just assembled Wisla Krakow's team, and put Blaszczykowski, Obraniak, and Roger, we would do well nationally. This selection of our so called 'top' players onto a team just equals a bunch of headless chickens passing the ball to each other attempting to move the ball forward and somehow managing to screw up!
 
Marla, France are perfectly capable of beating Serbia in few days time, and if they do it's only one point. And then Serbia have to play the same Romania at home game, and have to play Lithuania away. Sure, you've made it risky for yourselves, but it's far from over.

Serbia's existing score against both Romania and Lithuania is impressive. Serbia has to win only one of next three games (with two draws), while France has to win all three.. No doubt France's most difficult and important game is against Serbia, so if they are good, they'll still have some chance.
 
Portogal is good because they import players from South America ... end of story
 
In the qualifiers for WC 2006 the runner ups were divided into two pots with the high and low ranked teams separated. The teams were then drawn from each pot to face each other.

Some likely runner ups and their latest FIFA-rankings:

1: Sweden-41 or Portugal-17
2: Greece-12, Latvia-58
3: NI-31, CR-18, Pol-36, Slova-45, Slove-54
4: Germany-4, Russia-6
5: Bosn-Her-46 , Turkey-27
6: Croatia-9 , Ukraine-25
7: Serbia-13 , France-10
8: Ireland-38
9: Scotland-30

Which means we'll go up against a top seeded team if we finish ahead of Portugal and don't get the fewest points of the 2nd placed teams.

Edit: Although - No seeding of the eight teams (if any) has been officially announced. Previous cycles of World Cup qualifying have not always seeded teams for this stage, nor used a consistent seeding method.
 
We are going to be second from the end, screw San Marino! :trophy2nd:
 
Beating Estonia 4-2 won't be enough for Turkey to go through finals.Damn it.:@
You all should worry about Turkey not qualifying.We would be a different color for the cup.:(
 
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