Wow, Corporations support HUGE populations... look at this!

[hoopsnerd]

So after building a "seafaring" empire, I controlled quite a large portion of the seafood industry... and since i founded Sid's Sushi and didnt spread it to anyone else, i was able to bring in about 16 food per turn from Sid's Sushi alone. This allowed me to build some huge cities, this one was getting 98 Food at one point in the game. If it were slightly better terrain or a floodplain, you could easilly get this city <screenshot #1> over 50 population. The population at size 43 was almost 40 million people. Screenshot #2 is Top 5 cities in the world at the end of the game...

New Carthage wasnt even founded until 1890 AD. Russia was annoying me so I destroyed everything in a large cities radius and built a monster city on the continent to show the AIs over there who was boss and keep them in line, worshipping my giant city. Since it was on another continent I was paying almost 300 gold per turn in corporation costs.... ouch. Bibracte wasn't even my GP farm... Builders gotta love corporations.

 

[frob2900]

Nice Those are amongst the largest cities I've seen! (I haven't played much BtS yet, so my experience is with Warlords)

Still, it's kind of fun to think that a large part of the diet of your people is Sushi (at least try to found Cereal Mills so they can have some Kellogg's All-Bran or Weetabix )

 

[axident]

With that level of population, gee I wonder why that city is in negative health territory. Nice ring of death around the city by the way.

 

[Antilogic]

I'm pretty sure there is no way to keep that city healthy. No way...

Good job, though...I thought I had a massive one at 36 my last game. But it looks like I still have some more work to do...to be fair, though, I finished the game around 1830 CE, ~140 years before yours.

 

[hoopsnerd]

hehehe, actually it was staying healthy... but i was playing monarch and running environmentalism paying out the arse for it with corporation costs and inflation . I think its actually poisoned in the screenshot, jerks stopped me from getting 44 or 45... but the poisoning only took out like 1/4 of my food bar (Solver's patched).

 

[UncleJJ]

I'm pretty sure there is no way to keep that city healthy. No way...

Except researching... Future Tech

He's on FT #7 and each gives + and + so he can keep growing indefinitely by finding, trading or conquering more corporation resources and feeding this and other monster cities. Only the number of resources on the map limit city size as long as research of FTs is fast enough.

Key civics for a monster cities would be: Representation for specialist bonus, Caste System for many, many merchants to finance the costs and Free Market for trade and lower corporation costs.

The game might end in a cultural victory before your cities could reach their ultimate size... you might want to disable cultural victory if you are taking this seriously

 

[Antilogic]

Except researching... Future Tech

He's on FT #7 and each gives + and + so he can keep growing indefinitely by finding, trading or conquering more corporation resources and feeding this and other monster cities. Only the number of resources on the map limit city size as long as research of FTs is fast enough.

Key civics for a monster cities would be: Representation for specialist bonus, Caste System for many, many merchants to finance the costs and Free Market for trade and lower corporation costs.

The game might end in a cultural victory before your cities could reach their ultimate size... you might want to disable cultural victory if you are taking this seriously

There are Future Techs in this game? I thought that was Composites and Stealth and Robotics and that stuff...

I'm just joking, but since most of my games end in the 19th century (or earlier), I don't tend to see anything in the modern ages. The Future Techs didn't even cross my mind as a possibility.

 

[Lurking Liu]

I'm pretty sure there is no way to keep that city healthy. No way...

National Park!

You lose access to coal, but if you're on Future Tech 7, I don't think that's a problem =P



That being said, I hate to think what the Life Expectency of that city is....

 

[Antilogic]

That's right, I really need to start paying attention to some of the new stuff in BtS before I post.

 

[hoopsnerd]

There are Future Techs in this game? I thought that was Composites and Stealth and Robotics and that stuff...

I'm just joking, but since most of my games end in the 19th century (or earlier), I don't tend to see anything in the modern ages. The Future Techs didn't even cross my mind as a possibility.

Yeah... I never make it that long either. I just decided to let my spaceship sit on the launchpad for a hundred years or so in order to see what Corporations and the new additions to the game are capable of... I've got to say that I love corporations. Huge payoff for a huge price, but it gives you a further customization option. Say hello to the biggest GP farms ever...

 

[Pikkis]

So after building a "seafaring" empire, I controlled quite a large portion of the seafood industry... and since i founded Sid's Sushi and didnt spread it to anyone else, i was able to bring in about 16 food per turn from Sid's Sushi alone. This allowed me to build some huge cities, this one was getting 98 Food at one point in the game. If it were slightly better terrain or a floodplain, you could easilly get this city <screenshot #1> over 50 population. The population at size 43 was almost 40 million people. Screenshot #2 is Top 5 cities in the world at the end of the game...

New Carthage wasnt even founded until 1890 AD. Russia was annoying me so I destroyed everything in a large cities radius and built a monster city on the continent to show the AIs over there who was boss and keep them in line, worshipping my giant city. Since it was on another continent I was paying almost 300 gold per turn in corporation costs.... ouch. Bibracte wasn't even my GP farm... Builders gotta love corporations.

43-population city in 90 years? That's huge! I've never seen so large city. How much people is in there (20-pop. is around 4,4 million so there must be much more)?

 

[hoopsnerd]

43-population city in 90 years? That's huge! I've never seen so large city. How much people is in there (20-pop. is around 4,4 million so there must be much more)?

almost 40 million people. it had ~98 food so it could have almost made population 50 if I had had enough turns...

 

[Landstander]

This is awesome - I have a new goal in Civ4 - Size 50!!!!

Really - it would have to be carefully planned out. Just the right terrain and bonuses would be neccesary. Nearly all happy/health resources. A global emprie to rake in the Sushi or Cereal resources. A handful of Great Merchants settled.

If planned well enough in advance, Globe Theater and Nat'l Park would make the growth happen much more smoothly - and then the only concern would be city location and Corporation resources.

 

[Cabay Jet]

National park would eliminate your health concerns, as it eliminates unhealthiness from population in the city its built in. I'm pretty sure that a granary, grocer, hospital, technology, etc. could keep unhealthiness from buildings and resources in check. And with the health/happiness cap removed...

I need to play on an Archipelago map sometime.

 

[IronCrown]

Omg! I never got a city >30 since I ceased playing noble or below.

But your score is strangely low. Population being the biggest contributor to score, yours should be much higher. I had >7000 ingame-score with way smaller cities

 

[Optimizer]

Do corporation bonuses scale with map size?

They should, as is now they are overpowered on large maps.

 

[civhelp121]

what type of map is that? i've wanted something like that, I usually put it as continents

 

[Cabay Jet]

It looks like a normal/large continents map, but it could be fractal. For getting cities as large as possible, though, I think archipelago with Sid's Sushi would work best as archipelago maps tend to have a lot of seafood.

 

[Dr.Pseikone]

I have read the gamespot review, and the reviewer was saying corporations was not a clean tactics and it was not been implemented nicely, as espionage. But as I could see on the photos of this thread, it's very interesting and amazing what you have done! Imagine if we had new resources, as new corporations - we will certainly have a pletora of new options and tactics to win the game! I am myself conducting a thread with new ideas and new corporations! If you want to discuss with me new ideas, please, drop by there! Here's the thread bellow:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=236038

Dr. Pseikone

 

[Pikkis]

almost 40 million people. it had ~98 food so it could have almost made population 50 if I had had enough turns...

Don't forget you can play the game after you've won it!

This is awesome - I have a new goal in Civ4 - Size 50!!!!

I have the same goal now! And I will also try to get 20-population city before 500AD (is it possible?), as my record is 820AD at the moment.