Civ IV BtS Max Pop Reached (2^31)

[Dufresne]

I'm guessing this is somewhere else on this thread, but I believe I reached the max population possible in Civ IV BtS. The Demographics screen capped out at 2,147,483,647 (2.1 billion). This was a HUGE map game on Monarch. My largest city was 45. No mods...just stock BtS.

I had reduced the enemies down to a single city and had Sid's Sushi and Mining Corps. I was getting +32 food from Sid and +35 from Mining.

At any rate -- just curious if anyone else has gotten here. This happens to be 2^31, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it capped at the max 32 bit number. I guess I can stop playing now. LOL

 

[lymond]

Civ IV is now broken forever

Be interesting to see if @WastinTime or @Kaitzilla have some thoughts, since they've put up some whoppin' scores on huge maps.

 

[Dufresne]

Ha! I decided I wanted to see how high I could get it. It's kind of a micro-managing nightmare, but it was fun. I got to 1 Billion sometime in the 2000's, and I think went from 1 Billion to 2 Billion in about 10-15 turns. By then, I had cleared the map of all but one 'enemy' city on an island, so I controlled the whole map. So was just dishing out Sid's to all the newly captured cities. By then, I had countless 30+ cities, which were growing fast (still) with the +32 food from Sid's.

Anyway - it will be interesting to see if anyone else got to this point.

 

[WastinTime]

Since we were going for high score, we ended our games around 500AD. So I'm sure we didn't get to max pop like @Dufresne just did.

 

[Pangaea]

Was this with domination turned off so you could 'safely' fill the entire map. Fantastic achievement in any case. Congrats. \o/

 

[Dufresne]

Yes, correct. Domination was turned off to allow me to fill the map. Victory modes turned on were Conquest, Space and Time. I was going to keep going until the final turn, but once I saw the population max out, I just wiped out the last enemy city. I still had about 20 turns left, so I probably could have gotten to 3 billion at the rate I was growing at the end. I can see a lot of people thinking this would a tortuous waste of time, but I was just curious. Ok, it was a little tortuous.

But, I played this over many weeks, so it wasn't too bad. By the end, most cities were set to 'Auto manage workers / max food' and set to either 'Wealth' or 'Research'. So turns went a lot faster once there was only one enemy civ city left. Was getting a Future Tech every turn and was at FT 56 by the end, so there was nothing preventing the growth of cities (plenty of happy and health).

Just counted:
Total Cities = 225
Cities with pop >= 40: 5
Cities with pop 30-39: 97
Cities with pop 20-29: 63

Anyway.... Thanks. Kind of relieved it's over. Haha...

 

[elmurcis]

Huh, so population limit is same number as number of worker turns on screen one can get by accident sometimes. Good to know, thank you.

 

[WastinTime]

I just checked, and we did pass that limit. 446 cities at 815AD was Kait's final. I don't know when max was reached. However, high score kept going up, so I don't see 2^31 as any kind of limit. Just the limit that is displayed on the Demo screen.
(and that was 446 cities within the Domination limit) I wonder how much max population could really be.

 

[Dufresne]

Ok cool. That 2^31 limit must just be the limitation of the Demographics display as you say.

Wow....how in the world do you get to 446 cities by 815AD!? That's unreal!

 

[Kaitzilla]

Wow....how in the world do you get to 446 cities by 815AD!? That's unreal!

Getting the highest score of all time is quite an effort.

I did get a brand new battlestation computer recently.

 

[WastinTime]

Wow....how in the world do you get to 446 cities by 815AD!? That's unreal!

Yeah, it was a competition over a month (maybe 2). Due to the 'short' time, I went with a faster 610AD finish, but only had 385 cities. (10 million+ score)
Kait's score was 11+ million.
Gotta do it on Huge, Marathon speed with a Big&Small, tiny islands map. (or maybe a tiny island Arch. map)

 

[danjuno]

What leader/Civ? It'd be interesting to see a scoreboard of everyone who's gone for it and the stats.

 

[WastinTime]

I'm pretty sure both Kaitzilla and I played Inca.

 

[danjuno]

Makes sense, I recently went back through Kylearan's old blog and he did a challenge from Realms Beyond based on pop growth with the Incas.

 

[Qactus]

What leader/Civ? It'd be interesting to see a scoreboard of everyone who's gone for it and the stats.

Here is the forum thread: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/g-major-144.563566/

and here is the HoF page where you could also download and open the saves if interested: http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ4/gauntlet.php?show=major&gauntlet=577