WWII Europe: Small, Fast & Beautiful for IV - Discussion & Creation Diary

Thanks. Although I'm not very happy atm...


I just spent the last 4h playing, actually started a new city which sent over 3000 workers every morning into Carlton (in a town the size of 10 000, that posed some serious transportation issues...). Everything was going nicely, until:
*poof!* Windows decides that now (instead of 4h ago) is the best time to inform me that I have disconnected my network cable. And SC4 crashes... So that's 4h of work into a beautiful city gone up into cyber-heaven.

Feeling... A... Bit... Annoyed... With... Windows!!! >:O >:O >:O >:O >:O >:O >:O
 
I scouted aroun wikiquotes.org for some good ones for the differnt techs. I mostly found misc quotes that had something to do with war, but I'd like to put them somewhere.

Here's a list:

Patton:

I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living **** out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like **** through a tin horn!

There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you won't have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled **** in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-***** named Georgie Patton!

Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man. Anything built by man, can be destroyed by him.

Hold'em by the nose and kick'em in the pants.

Just drive down that road until you get blown up.
- Instructions to reconnaissance troops

Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

Rommel, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!
- Upon defeating Erwin Rommel's forces in North Africa

There's only one proper way for a professional soldier to die: the last bullet of the last battle of the last war.

A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.

When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have.

All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain.



Napoleon:

An army marches on its stomach.

Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.



Caesar:

Veni, vidi, vici.
- I came, I saw, I conquered.

Alea iacta est.
- Translation: The dice is cast.



Rommel:

In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it.

Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, and brains saves both.

Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning.



Monty:

The US has broken the second rule of war. That is, don't go fighting with your land army on the mainland of Asia. Rule One is don't march on Moscow. I developed these two rules myself."
- In the House of Lords on American policy in Vietnam, 1962.



MacArthur:

In war, there is no substitute for victory. Whoever said the pen is mighter than the sword never saw a machine gun.



Arabian Lawrence:

Lawrence: Oh, thanks, Dryden, this is going to be fun.
Dryden: Lawrence, only two kinds of creature get fun in the desert - Bedouins and gods, and you're neither. Take it from me. For ordinary men it's a burning, fiery furnace.
Lawrence: No, Dryden; it's going to be fun.
Dryden: It is recognised that you have a funny sense of fun.



Churchill:

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

Never in the field of human conflict has so much, been owed by so many, to so few.

Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

One day President Roosevelt told me that he was asking publicly for suggestions about what the war should be called. I said at once 'The Unnecessary War'

So little time, so much to do.



Hitler:

I have not come into this world to make men better, but to make use of their weaknesses.

Das ist Totalen Krieg!
- This is Total War!

All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself.



Stalin:

A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.

Not a step back!

Quantity is quality.



Eisenhower:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.



George Wallace:

Why does the Air Force need expensive new bombers? Have the people we've been bombing over the years been complaining?



Göring:

No enemy bomber can reach the Ruhr. If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Goering. You may call me Meyer.



Einstein:

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.



Frederik the Great:

If soldiers were to begin to think, not one of them would remain in the army.



Robert E. Lee:

It is well that war is so terrible - lest we should grow too fond of it.



C&C:

Kane: The people only believe what the media tells them to believe, and I tell the media what to believe. It's really quite simple.

Kane: He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past.
 
Paasky said:
"Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-***** named Georgie Patton!"

You should see "Patton" as played by George C. Scott. He does a great job conveying his personality. Interesting quotes and thanks for sharing.
 
He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past.
Isn't that from "1984" ? The Big Brother said something very similar...
 
Nuh Uh: I have seen it, Patton was a very funny fellow. As were Mussolini & Hitler (ever seen their movements while giving a speech?)
See for yourself, Disco-Führer

Crash: Might be, I didn't go into the book department, I'll check it.
 
here are some more: "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Goering said that at the Nuremberg trials.


Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. - John F. Kennedy

Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty.
-Unknown


The military don't start wars. Politicians start wars.
-William Westmoreland

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.,
Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind.
-John F. Kennedy

If I were to give liberty to the press, my power could not last three days.
- Napolean Bonapart

or at least funny ones:

"We don't necessarily discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of people."
-Colonel Gerald Wellman

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
-Dan Quayle
 
Paasky said:
But where to put these? Some can go into the Tech Quotes, but perhaps replace the tip's while loading a game with these? Much like RTW.

the leaders can say some of those when you get the first quote...

the others for civics...
 
Here are most of the new promotion images. Fit quite well, don't they?
 

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Paasky said:
A long silence... Here's the map though ;)

If someone wants to start popping cities/improvements/resources, download & tell me that you're doing it.

I can place and do the improvements for USSR...I just need more info on the number of cities you want...how much improvements in them...etc
 
Paasky said:
For the West, every 2-3 squares, for the East 4-6 squares apart, by get all land under Soviet culture. Every city has a culture of 1000 btw.

Thanks, you're the fellow to contact in SU matters ;)

do I place the cities for all Europe or just Soviet Union?
 
Paasky said:
For the West, every 2-3 squares, for the East 4-6 squares apart, by get all land under Soviet culture. Every city has a culture of 1000 btw.

Thanks, you're the fellow to contact in SU matters ;)

double post...boards are slow this week
 
Paasky said:
For the West, every 2-3 squares, for the East 4-6 squares apart, by get all land under Soviet culture. Every city has a culture of 1000 btw.

Thanks, you're the fellow to contact in SU matters ;)

also what borders' year do I take ? pre-poland invasion. pre-france, or the begining of Barbarossa . Do I place ressources too?
 
Paasky said:
Resources are pre-placed, but you can add some if you think they should be added. Pre-Poland. Whatever cities you want :)

I have placed all of Soviet Union ,germany and between from the rhin to Oural mountains... except I think you should have give bulgaria rumania and Hungary to Hitler...he invaded them before the poland invasion...unless you make them really friend with adolf...

I remember you scenario for civ 3 with very few railroads in USSR...I placed more this time since they do not give infinite movement anymore...

Tomorrow i'll place the western cities, maginot line maybe the USA ? but I think i'll need help with africa..
 
There is no USA. :p

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Powers

Hungary

The first and most willing of the Central European Axis allies, Hungary started its collaboration with the fascist states of the Axis in 1927 signing a treaty with Italy. Formal and informal ties with Germany throughout the 1930s lead to Hungary's active participation in subduing and dismantling of the Czechoslovak state, from which it obtained a number of territories. Hungary formally signed the tripartie pact on November 20, 1940


Romania

Joined the Axis in on November 23, 1940 after Russia occupied half of one of its provinces (Moldova, June 28, 1940) and Germany and Italy forced it to relinquish half of another (Transylvania) to Hungary on August 30, 1940.


Bulgaria

Joined the Axis in November 1940.


Yugoslavia

Yugoslavia joined on March 25, 1941, but a British-supported coup d'état two days later put Yugoslavia's participation in question (although King Peter II of Yugoslavia actually declared his adherence to the treaty), leading to a German occupation of Yugoslavia in April.
 
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