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as it was only normal , the thread OP has been locked . Though not exactly in vain ; it obviously adds to my unimportance :
ahh, what would we do without Al-Jazeera ? Anita McNaught had a smilie report on Turkish views on missile shield mentioning the "rusting" 80 nukes in İncirlik , that's an airbase that USA uses a lot , and how we would never have access to 'em despite the dual key framework . Well , she should save her breath , the Turkish defence minister was in the newspapers months ago telling that to avoid any risk in case of a crash , THK F-16s were delivered without the wiring , it was the decision of Ankara to forgo any nuclear vector capability . Errm , wrong . The capability was not granted by US , in a series of actions that included bribing of officials here in Turkey to choose the F-16/79 , that would be the least when compared to the alternatives of F-16 Block 30 , F-18 , or F-18 + F-20 . Mind you, the F-16/79 would still have been the case , before the USN conducted a simulation of an unlikely engine change ; the F-16N was also tasked with this non-existent entity as well . Damn us, we (not me , but we ) know far too many people .
the bad blood between Turkey and the US is in official papers since 1981 .
at least the reprints so far released say so . Any Turkish conspiracy minded person knows the glee of the US official who informed Carter at the Operahaus that their "boys" had done it , the coup ı mean .
also our fault . Andropov had a "prime minister" aka Mikhail Gorbaçov , Perestroika was a must , Glasnost was the means to do it - without bloodshed and such ugly things - and to keep the wolves at bay a trustable go-between had to be found . Someone who preferably hated the guts of US , but knew enough people out there in the wilderness who then had their own sets of contacts . Fast forward to the end of the decade and the Americans in a conference in Berlin were amused by the attention Marshall of the Soviet Union Ahromeyev paid to Condoleeza Rice , a neo-c_n to be with a slight humanistic streak , somebody one can talk to . It was attributed to lack of sampling of the Black . Why , these are the guys , the Reaganites who think and espouse that they caught the USSR with pants down and bankrupted it with an arms race , forcing on the restructuring and the eventual dissolution ; victory , glory and a place in history is guaranteed when one burns certain 2 or 3 pages of A4 papers . Since there were to be no more of Commies , our death warrant was also signed .
cannonfodder is for cannons , if not Red then why not Blue ? Or any other blueish tint ?
meanwhile the Chinese who were following the exact path avoided the same fate . Their "prime minister " was sorta sacrifized , the old guard was happy to fail to notice the second wave of Capitalists , the yearly growth rates and the attendant riches was not that bad a pill to swallow . This vintage point is important . When Gorbaçov was told that restarting to dump raped Afghan women from high altitude helicopters at designated zones was a bad move ( and not that it had done any good first time ) , he had to stick to it , he was number one , the captain at the helm and he would be obeyed . Besides any notion of Afghans who could read bort numbers and tag to the wireless nets was a real joke . Any Russian aviator from the time and location will tell you they finally got over the stinging menace by lotta flares and correct tactics . ı have been told ı will be "redeeming" Ogarkov / Ahromeyev duo in due course ; don't know whut , why or how .
staying in Afghanistan we have yet another example of American prediliction to see everything in American public opinion/mood . We have read reports of the trillion dollars worths of mines in these times of austerity and especially the lifeblood of laptops can not be entrusted to lower life forms , hence the US now declares they will test the decade curse of Afghanistan , even tanks are now sent in to keep the ground until 2014 and beyond . Awright , the Beast is okay viewing , though it concentrates on one side of the equation only . Good hunting to US tankers , may they even find the Afghan Armoured Cavalry as obviously they will be searched for as well . A reference to the not so celebrated case of Russians finding a T-34 in a cave with wooden carvings to represent ERA boxes .
americana is such a thing . They have to succeed where others have failed . They command more troops than Russians ever had - Really ? Does that also count the air army that sent Tu-16s from Turkmenistan ? - and they will stay ... Soft power has to be the velvet glove and not the fist itself . And everybody must be convinced or else . The else is also well clear . The way to ensure durability is once again aerial destabilisation , Douetism is not dead yet . Even more areas of Pakistan will be opened to drone strikes with not so secret cooperation from Islamabad and Al - Jazeera will continue releasing tapes , taped in nice residences in Riyadh with the deed in the hands of a Saudi Prince . Hey , wait , ı can't go that low . ı am a Boeing sales bot , that's why the experts respect me , can't jeopardize the last gasp of the Eagle . America knows it is not merely beating water in the [cooking] mortar . At least thinks so .
What's all that got anything to do with McNaught report ? Absooluutely nothin' . Turkey is supposed to be a wakin' giant , US has run things on its own for so many years and we want our share now , an equal voice . And TV reports are there to suggest we are gettin some . Costs are to be distributed among NATO , the initial reports even suggested higher risk countries wold pay less . Enough of this beggaring , any G-20 country is expected to pay %100 for %100 control . But then we lack strategic depth and vision . Interesting thing about my country , we don't have SAMs apart from shortrange affairs . Not even to the extent of the "science projects" stuff on the caliber of late 90' s Iraqis . While the glorious Ballistic defence pulls wool over the eyes , we will once again fail to buy area defence . Starting from the fling that resulted in the F-16's purchase this is a recurring theme . No wonder , as the THK is a 20 minute job .
at the same time the Iranians have gone on the TV with their S-200s , something in the right ballpark for aerospace applications gathering steam , with the attendant public speech that military power no longer solves political issues . Though one would rather have the Iranians sending somebody over to talk to the Libyans . Their friends and "friends" might have a valid reason to be so contemptous of the 80's version or the operators of the period but the Hollywood reference to the lightweight is also quite old , good cop bad cop game will not make it any easier . Yeah another cryptic nonsense that will be crowned by the stupid declarative that pathfinders are and were always loaded for action , something certain people in the North of an undislosed location have rediscovered on an AK-74 scale . Having booked the 2015 season does not make the pot safe . As repeatedly advised the bookies will be busy themselves .
forgetting the immediate paragraph above , as our expertise lies in lies (*) and they rarely last more than half an hour , the only asset seems to be fair reportage of wind conditions , since they are dirt simple to predict ; though always against the soundbite. The tack has changed , the northerly is chilly and it brings thunder and storms . The type 41s , the ones rusting in Incirlik , are of no concern then . The younglings were already told that in the forthcoming eviction their presence would make it 100 percent certain that there would be armed clashes , instead merely ugly diplomatic exchanges . They are worthless to us and useless for the stuff .
sorta history and it somehow unprovably happens to be true , counting upwards from 50% .
remember it was an airliner . A properly American one too ...
(*) or maybe on , ı was never good with prepositions .
ahh, what would we do without Al-Jazeera ? Anita McNaught had a smilie report on Turkish views on missile shield mentioning the "rusting" 80 nukes in İncirlik , that's an airbase that USA uses a lot , and how we would never have access to 'em despite the dual key framework . Well , she should save her breath , the Turkish defence minister was in the newspapers months ago telling that to avoid any risk in case of a crash , THK F-16s were delivered without the wiring , it was the decision of Ankara to forgo any nuclear vector capability . Errm , wrong . The capability was not granted by US , in a series of actions that included bribing of officials here in Turkey to choose the F-16/79 , that would be the least when compared to the alternatives of F-16 Block 30 , F-18 , or F-18 + F-20 . Mind you, the F-16/79 would still have been the case , before the USN conducted a simulation of an unlikely engine change ; the F-16N was also tasked with this non-existent entity as well . Damn us, we (not me , but we ) know far too many people .
the bad blood between Turkey and the US is in official papers since 1981 .
at least the reprints so far released say so . Any Turkish conspiracy minded person knows the glee of the US official who informed Carter at the Operahaus that their "boys" had done it , the coup ı mean .
also our fault . Andropov had a "prime minister" aka Mikhail Gorbaçov , Perestroika was a must , Glasnost was the means to do it - without bloodshed and such ugly things - and to keep the wolves at bay a trustable go-between had to be found . Someone who preferably hated the guts of US , but knew enough people out there in the wilderness who then had their own sets of contacts . Fast forward to the end of the decade and the Americans in a conference in Berlin were amused by the attention Marshall of the Soviet Union Ahromeyev paid to Condoleeza Rice , a neo-c_n to be with a slight humanistic streak , somebody one can talk to . It was attributed to lack of sampling of the Black . Why , these are the guys , the Reaganites who think and espouse that they caught the USSR with pants down and bankrupted it with an arms race , forcing on the restructuring and the eventual dissolution ; victory , glory and a place in history is guaranteed when one burns certain 2 or 3 pages of A4 papers . Since there were to be no more of Commies , our death warrant was also signed .
cannonfodder is for cannons , if not Red then why not Blue ? Or any other blueish tint ?
meanwhile the Chinese who were following the exact path avoided the same fate . Their "prime minister " was sorta sacrifized , the old guard was happy to fail to notice the second wave of Capitalists , the yearly growth rates and the attendant riches was not that bad a pill to swallow . This vintage point is important . When Gorbaçov was told that restarting to dump raped Afghan women from high altitude helicopters at designated zones was a bad move ( and not that it had done any good first time ) , he had to stick to it , he was number one , the captain at the helm and he would be obeyed . Besides any notion of Afghans who could read bort numbers and tag to the wireless nets was a real joke . Any Russian aviator from the time and location will tell you they finally got over the stinging menace by lotta flares and correct tactics . ı have been told ı will be "redeeming" Ogarkov / Ahromeyev duo in due course ; don't know whut , why or how .
staying in Afghanistan we have yet another example of American prediliction to see everything in American public opinion/mood . We have read reports of the trillion dollars worths of mines in these times of austerity and especially the lifeblood of laptops can not be entrusted to lower life forms , hence the US now declares they will test the decade curse of Afghanistan , even tanks are now sent in to keep the ground until 2014 and beyond . Awright , the Beast is okay viewing , though it concentrates on one side of the equation only . Good hunting to US tankers , may they even find the Afghan Armoured Cavalry as obviously they will be searched for as well . A reference to the not so celebrated case of Russians finding a T-34 in a cave with wooden carvings to represent ERA boxes .
americana is such a thing . They have to succeed where others have failed . They command more troops than Russians ever had - Really ? Does that also count the air army that sent Tu-16s from Turkmenistan ? - and they will stay ... Soft power has to be the velvet glove and not the fist itself . And everybody must be convinced or else . The else is also well clear . The way to ensure durability is once again aerial destabilisation , Douetism is not dead yet . Even more areas of Pakistan will be opened to drone strikes with not so secret cooperation from Islamabad and Al - Jazeera will continue releasing tapes , taped in nice residences in Riyadh with the deed in the hands of a Saudi Prince . Hey , wait , ı can't go that low . ı am a Boeing sales bot , that's why the experts respect me , can't jeopardize the last gasp of the Eagle . America knows it is not merely beating water in the [cooking] mortar . At least thinks so .
What's all that got anything to do with McNaught report ? Absooluutely nothin' . Turkey is supposed to be a wakin' giant , US has run things on its own for so many years and we want our share now , an equal voice . And TV reports are there to suggest we are gettin some . Costs are to be distributed among NATO , the initial reports even suggested higher risk countries wold pay less . Enough of this beggaring , any G-20 country is expected to pay %100 for %100 control . But then we lack strategic depth and vision . Interesting thing about my country , we don't have SAMs apart from shortrange affairs . Not even to the extent of the "science projects" stuff on the caliber of late 90' s Iraqis . While the glorious Ballistic defence pulls wool over the eyes , we will once again fail to buy area defence . Starting from the fling that resulted in the F-16's purchase this is a recurring theme . No wonder , as the THK is a 20 minute job .
at the same time the Iranians have gone on the TV with their S-200s , something in the right ballpark for aerospace applications gathering steam , with the attendant public speech that military power no longer solves political issues . Though one would rather have the Iranians sending somebody over to talk to the Libyans . Their friends and "friends" might have a valid reason to be so contemptous of the 80's version or the operators of the period but the Hollywood reference to the lightweight is also quite old , good cop bad cop game will not make it any easier . Yeah another cryptic nonsense that will be crowned by the stupid declarative that pathfinders are and were always loaded for action , something certain people in the North of an undislosed location have rediscovered on an AK-74 scale . Having booked the 2015 season does not make the pot safe . As repeatedly advised the bookies will be busy themselves .
forgetting the immediate paragraph above , as our expertise lies in lies (*) and they rarely last more than half an hour , the only asset seems to be fair reportage of wind conditions , since they are dirt simple to predict ; though always against the soundbite. The tack has changed , the northerly is chilly and it brings thunder and storms . The type 41s , the ones rusting in Incirlik , are of no concern then . The younglings were already told that in the forthcoming eviction their presence would make it 100 percent certain that there would be armed clashes , instead merely ugly diplomatic exchanges . They are worthless to us and useless for the stuff .
sorta history and it somehow unprovably happens to be true , counting upwards from 50% .
remember it was an airliner . A properly American one too ...
(*) or maybe on , ı was never good with prepositions .
