Your favorite speed

[Yesod]

Hope we didn't scare her off!
(I don't actually think we did.)

...I don't know if scared is the right word.

Any woman with her mouth taped shut is cute.

 

[Zylornck Davis]

...I don't know if scared is the right word.

Yeah scared isn't the right word. She said at breakfast she wasn't gonna stick around where she wasnt wanted, so there ya go. i didn't know either. Our loss I guess.

 

[mechaerik]

Am I missing something here?


What happened?

 

[TheWilltoAct]

I'm baffled as well.

 

[Hsinchu]

They were having a conversation about lemon's profile pic, which we had previously tendered was possibly not her. But several patron's have decided that oral subjugation of a woman is attractive and the conversation went downhill from there.

 

[TheWilltoAct]

uhm all I said was I thought her profile was cute, thinking that that might have been what IgnorantTeacher was saying as well: if I misspoke and offended anyone I apologize.

it was IAM that chose to take it down that road imo.

sorry LM

EDIT - alright, I think I get it, thought I was being blamed. although I'm still confused as to what IAM's statement might mean. Is he directing that sentiment at me!?

 

[fed1943]

Voted normal, but epic is good,too.
Marathon is funny, but unbalanced; and quick is... not fun to me.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Voted normal, but epic is good,too.
Marathon is funny, but unbalanced; and quick is... not fun to me.

Would you give some details about how Marathon is unbalanced? It has not read too many Harry Potter books, has it?

 

[Sidney Magal]

Wow! People really like Epic!

 

[Hsinchu]

Would you give some details about how Marathon is unbalanced? It has not read too many Harry Potter books, has it?

Marathon, on small map sizes, allows for a military oriented player to get a lot more done on a lot fewer turns. Marathon, I'm told, is balanced by larger maps and higher difficulties where the cheating AI has significantly fewer handicaps.

 

[naterator]

i like marathon, my goal is not to find the one true optimal strategy so i feel no pressure to beeline and destroy. I'm sure i'd have to turn the difficulty down a notch if i played standard.

 

[Hsinchu]

i like marathon, my goal is not to find the one true optimal strategy so i feel no pressure to beeline and destroy. I'm sure i'd have to turn the difficulty down a notch if i played standard.

Interesting goal.

However, I am of the belief that there is no one true optimal strategy. Every situation is different just as every map is different and every leader is different. If there were only one strategy, the game would get real dull real fast.

And I am also inclined to say that game speed and map size also change the optimized victory condition. If you find your perfect victory on Marathon, I dare you to try it on Quick.

 

[naterator]

If you find your perfect victory on Marathon, I dare you to try it on Quick.

no no, i'm NOT trying to pitch a perfect game. So often people argue about one thing or another being the optimal and therefore superior. Video game instincts command us to go for the throat, so some people just can't resist leveraging the advantages marathon gives you to maximum advantage by rushing from military tech to military tech and unit spamming since it's the most efficient use of hammers in marathon. when i play civ, I like to throttle back from the deathgrip i have on my playstation controller and smell the roses. hence marathon.

 

[Grey Fox]

when i play civ, I like to throttle back from the deathgrip i have on my playstation controller and smell the roses. hence marathon.

Heh, for me it's pretty much the opposite. I play console games (or similar on PC) to relax from the powergaming of some of the pc games I play.

 

[Hsinchu]

Heh, for me it's pretty much the opposite. I play console games (or similar on PC) to relax from the powergaming of some of the pc games I play.

Ditto! Nothing like a quick round of DDR or Burnout to stay away from the "watch the dawn rise" potency of Civ IV or the "One more game, I will kill you this time" of CS source.

 

[LiquidSwords]

I've never played on Quick or Epic, so I'm going to have to pick Normal. I have no desire to try Marathon again, although Epic does sound fun.

 

[The Snug]

Normal for me.

On slower speeds, a temporary military advantage allows too decisive victories... too often it's 'get to x, simply win'. I feel almsot forced into the warmonger role because there are often opportunities without associated risks. Barbarians can also become obnoxious although that's a lesser concern.

On faster speeds, war becomes tactically shallow from my experience. There is so much pressure to press home an advantage before the enemy makes a military breakthrough that speed and brute force trump the subtler points of warfare.
Some legitimate warmongering strategies aren't worth attempting at all because the window of opportunity is too tight.

I also got the impression that the AI becomes more and more incompetent the farther you stray from default settings.

I find normal speed easier militarily. In similar fashion to how Blitzkrieg hates normal speed (his swords expire before they reach their intended target of freshly upgraded bowman), I like it in reverse. That is to say, by the time the AI stack of mace and cuirassiers reach me, I instantly upgrade to rifles.

I find the warfare in normal speed to be so utterly dumb. No need for skill, but just simply a matter of who has more quality in a defensive position.I find that I don't have to build a very large army at all, but simply wait until I get a tech lead and then crank out a small handful of higher quality units and roll over a neighbor with them.

 

[naterator]

I find that I don't have to build a very large army at all, but simply wait until I get a tech lead and then crank out a small handful of higher quality units and roll over a neighbor with them.

Changing the difficulty level will fix this better than changing the speed.

 

[Ignorant Teacher]

Bump because there's current interest in the topic.

 

[CajNatalie]

When I discovered that there was a Marathon speed available, I was overjoyed. I had always wished for a way to make Civ games longer. I hate it when things end... so a game that lasts for what feels like forever is perfect.

Yes, I can be very patient with game pacing. I like to see that not even 1000 turns have passed yet, because I can tell myself 'I have over a game's worth of turns left, awesome!'