Your thoughts on required uniforms in high schools and universities?

Your thoughts?


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In one of my classes yesterday we had to have a class discussion about how it would be both morally and constitutionally wrong for high schools in the United States to have a strict dress code or worse, school uniforms. We all agreed that school uniforms would be a terrible idea. A uniform requirement is nothing more than authoritarianism, and pointless authoritarianism at that.

Just think of how terrible it would be if American high schools and colleges/universities had uniforms that everyone had to wear and you couldn't wear anything you want ever, only the uniform that the principal is forcing people to wear against their will. I do realize that some private (especially Catholic) schools do force students to wear uniforms.

You wouldn't ever be able to wear what you want and all of your clothes would be useless save for that one little pathetic uniform. I feel sorry for people who go to private schools, and not just because they go to a private school, but because they have to wear a uniform as well. Also, don't forget that along with that uniform everyone would have to have the same exact hair cut, like in the military, and you wouldn't be allowed to dye or highlight your hair or anything that is normal for teens to do.

The only "justification" would be that "nobody will ever get made fun of or picked on anymore because everyone dresses the same", which is fundamentally flawed in that instead of making fun of someone for the shirt they are wearing, people would be made fun of for their personality or their race/gender/sexual orientation/etc., which would be infinitely worse. Also, if everyone wore the same clothing (thus losing their individuality and ability to stand out), it still wouldn't change human nature. People will still fight and argue.

It's not like people really get picked on or made fun of in high schools anyway, atleast not in Missouri. Everyone is always nice to just about everyone, sure there are occasionally fights that break out, primarily over girls, but it's not like "give me your lunch money or I'll beat you up" which never happens.

It also would never work because people would rebel against it or simply ignore it. Once someone has tasted freedom (in this case the freedom of clothing, freedom of individuality, and freedom to the pursuit of happiness), they wouldn't just give that up. If high schools were to ever implement uniforms in the United States, it would be equivalent to being a Jew in Poland, circa 1942. What could a principal do? It would be like "this is your principal speaking, starting next week all students are going to be forced to wear a certain uniform that I want you to wear" and then everyone would still dress normal and not care what the principal had to say.

In real life people aren't forced to wear a certain piece of clothing and that's all they can wear indefinitely. Sure, some jobs have uniforms, but life does not, it's not like you'll get arrested simply for wearing something a cop doesn't like when walking down the street. Also having a school assigned uniformed goes against American ideas such as capitalism and freedom. So, what are your thoughts on the thankfully failed idea of school uniforms or dress codes that are unreasonable?


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You're comparing high school uniforms to the holocaust?
 
Would you rather keep your freedom:
Or would you rather be oppressed:
Slightly loaded question there.

I had a uniform in school and didn't mind it.

The only third level colleges I have heard of having a uniform are some military type ones in France.
 
The main problem with school uniforms is that the school ends up picking ONE company that you are able to buy your uniform from. Then what happens is that one company jacks up their prices and laughs all the way to the bank.

I would not be opposed to uniforms otherwise, cause the chicks look hot.
 
Is this some kind of joke?

I went through "high school" (secondary education) with a uniform. It really impacts your life by the most minute amount.

EDIT: Warpus speaks the truth.
 
Warpus you pervert.

I'm impressed Airstrike managed to string a post together without calling for the middle east to be nuked to hell and back, and then crushed. Well done.
 
Your thoughts on required uniforms in high schools and universities?

Pointless.
 
I'd rather not have uniforms at my school. ( I just got new clothes.)
But it has been proven it helps academics so maybe there is a few pluses.
 
It's not like people really get picked on or made fun of in high schools anyway, atleast

Am calling BS on this. Also don't act like uniforms are some great battleground for FREEDOM!!!

But it has been proven it helps academics so maybe there is a few pluses.

I work better in jeans,t-shirt, and hat on while ogling some pretty chick nearby. Also I would like link on this.
 
Most biased ever poll on OT? Against some stiff opposition.

Cheap hack job is a cheap hack job.
 
I hate pointless authoritarianism in any form.
 
Why not join the military then?
 
From what Downtown has said in other threads, it is apparently helpful with low-income students so they don't feel so out of place, and everybody will better concentrate on what is really important.

And it is also apparently helpful with high-income students so everybody else knows they go to that exclusive private school with the fancy crest.

I really don't see the point for everybody else with the possible exception that it is usually obvious whether you or your mom picked out your school clothes.
 
From what Downtown has said in other threads it is apprently helpful with low-income students so they don't feel so out of place, and everybody will better concentrate on what is really important.

If they can't concentrate cause of clothes then they are going to fail best to get them over it when there young instead of when there older. Plus just to add uniforms are known tactic to get rid of individuality (why do you think they have prison uniforms).
 
I wonder if girls are forced to wear skirts in the middle of the winter?
 
I wonder if girls are forced to wear skirts in the middle of the winter?

If the company that makes the uniform doesn't make pants for girls yeah. Guys have to wear thin shirts and pants in winter also if they don't make anything thicker too (I've seen this happen in Canada where weather can get -30 with wind chill). Basically you better hope the uniform company isn't douche else you be screwed at some point cause of weather.
 
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