Isn't the same true for some men who date a model or so?Girls are much chooser than boys and if you're the wrong in her eyes you can do no right (whereas some douche she likes can do no wrong).
Prove itGirls are not choosier than boys
The substance is bad. The substance is one over the other. It has nothing to do with toneLike if you think tone matters more than substance
Prove it
Like if you think tone matters more than substance, then you aren’t here for dating advice (either end) you are here to police.
“the substance is bad” and yet you didn’t respond to the substance replyThe substance is bad. The substance is one over the other. It has nothing to do with tone
If you're here to say "prove it" to one claim and not the other (i.e. Narz's), then you're also here to police
It's an advice thread. People should be allowed to disagree on what counts as good advice. Seems like that's pretty important, overall.
That logic exercise goes against the literature, ever evolving but definitely landed on “women are choosier than men”… which doesn’t even matter because as actionable advice knowing that people are choosy regardless, and based on upstream attraction will change the their responses to equal downstream actions from different people is like 100000% important if you want to change your dating outcomes,It's easy to prove. Every boy who complains about girls being choosier has at least one or two girls with a crush on him but won't even consider them as fellow human beings (let alone romantic prospects) because he doesn't find them attractive.
As I explained in a post you "liked" i am skeptical that dating advice in this thread can be all that useful in the first place. And i think pushing back against misogynistic nonsense disguised as dating advice is important.
No, I didn't respond to the faulty premise.In part
“the substance is bad” and yet you didn’t respond to the substance reply
That logic exercise goes against the literature, ever evolving but definitely landed on “women are choosier than men”…
people want to superimpose their politics over dating advice.
“Without needing to evidence it” evidence what, that hot people can get away with things? That’s pretty foundational psych.No, I didn't respond to the faulty premise.
I get what you're trying to say. You agree with the claim and you're trying to find a way to say that in a way that makes it sound right (without actually needing to evidence it). You object to me because I object to the claim. But you're going about it all wrong.
Given that you've changed "picky" (one word) to "hot" (another, very different word), I think that kinda makes my argument for me here. The fact that people (not just women) can be "hot" is just an added bonus.“Without needing to evidence it” evidence what, that hot people can get away with things? That’s pretty foundational psych.
No, Lexicus, it’s because they studied the behavior.Is this because "the literature" is dominated by evpsych weirdoes who don't bother to try to disentangle the effects of gender ideology from their results?
correct, which is exactly why we need to push back against misogynistic politics superimposed over dating advice. Rule 0: try for self-improvement instead of blaming external factors like feminism or "bIoLoGy"
Dance around it forever, Gorbles. Picky people are picking hot.Given that you've changed "picky" (one word) to "hot" (another, very different word), I think that kinda makes my argument for me here. The fact that people (not just women) can be "hot" is just an added bonus.
No, Lexicus, it’s because they studied the behavior.
Prove it
The amount of claims is just increasing, eh?Dance around it forever, Gorbles. Picky people are picking hot.
Twist and shout, twist and shoutThe amount of claims is just increasing, eh?
People are picky over a whole bunch of things. Teenagers are no exception. We push expectations on kids (the next generation, etc) of what "hot" is, culturally, and there's a whole lot of ick baked in there (with the misogyny that Lexi mentioned, and so on). To go all in on "girls are pickier than boys" by pivoting to "picky people pick hot" is to suggest girls pick hot more than boys pick hot, which is dumb on the face of it.
So yeah, maybe we need a new thread for guys who really want to argue that women are "pickier". Certainly ain't gonna be much help to a 13yo.
So either you don't get the point, or you don't care to the extent you have to comment on people making it (which indicates care).Like who cares if he dressed it in gendered language with bro tropes