2006-07 NHL Season

[De Lorimier]

Yeah, if you pick up the Columbus Dispatch sports page, you see letter after letter calling for McLean's head. (Or you would, if the casual hockey fans hadn't gone back to Ohio State basketball). I think that Don has done some good things for Blue Jackets hockey...but its time for him to go.

I know we have some stud young guys (Rick Nash = Teh Awesome). Us Ohio pro sports fans are wary of that line "wait til next year", cause we hear it every year...in every sport.

You are a Canadians fan, correct?

Canadiens, correct. I live in Montréal, so anything else would probably make my life miserable. I used to be a Nordiques fan growing up though. The Habs were my second choice.

One good news about the Jackets:

The Columbus Dispatch has reported that Columbus will replace their current primary "CBJ" logo with what is now their alternate logo. The change will take place at the beginning of the 2007-2008 Season, and apply to both the home and away jerseys. A new third jersey design for next season, which could be red, is under discussion.

 

[NKVD]

Your translator must be malfunctioning. In French, elbow is a "coude". You'll find these little guys tucked halfway between your "main" and your "epaule".

And late means "en ******", as in after the fact. Seeing as Neil's hit took place 1 second after Drury shot (well, really half a second, but let's not quibble over fractions), it could very well be a late hit.

Let me know if you need more help translating from English to French.

your judgement must be broken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8by13GHBfc

I dont know but I clearly see a head shot with Neil elbow coming up at his own head's level. Judging by the fact that Drury is smaller its still an elbow to the head (head shot) while the puck is already lone gone into the corner of the ice rink. Neil comes from the side if not at a 120 degrees angle. its one of the cheapest shot I've ever seen in the NHL after McSorley on Brashear ,Hunter on Turgeon and McClaren on Zednik.

its evident that you come from Ottawa and finding that shot legal is amazing. I wish somebody would do this to you to change your mind and have great headaches for the rest of your life.

If at you both, you succeeded to convince yourself its a clean shot with some magical force who made Drury nose bleeding like a fountain i'm impressed. MAN you see his elbow waiving in the air right after Drury receive the hit!

 

[pboily]

Son, you will have to dig deep and hard to find me saying that the shot was legal and/or clean.

I even said it could be argued it was a late hit. I'll chalk it up to rusty english on your part.

But where I come from, an elbow to the head usually needs to have an elbow and a head meeting, at some point.

I see an arm in the air, but I see no contact with the elbow. He certainly leaned in with his shoulder. Elbow to the head is an illegal hit: the analysts in the video you conveniently provided go into some length to explain that it is not an illegal hit.

Why don't you get Ron Fournier's opinion on this and give us a call in the morning?

 

[NKVD]

Ever seen the piece of equipment that protects an elbow ? for me using that part to hit someone's head is an elbow to the head. Second he clearly releases his stick with his right hand which side he gave the elbow with.

haven't you seen the video's second angle ? how an you say its not an elbow i dont get it

 

[De Lorimier]

You're clearly the one who doesn't get it. It was a shoulder to head hit. Every article on the subject say it was a shoulder it.

 

[NKVD]

You're clearly the one who doesn't get it. It was a shoulder to head hit. Every article on the subject say it was a shoulder it.

as for total randomness I went to the RDS site and got the first article talking of the headshot which says : Campbell n'a imposé aucune suspension.

Réagissant au coup de coude asséné par Chris Neil à l'attaquant des Sabres Chris Drury, Ruff a délégué les durs à cuire Andrew Peters, Patrick Kaleta et Adam Mair sur la patinoire lors d'une mise en jeu, face à Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza et Mike Comrie des Sénateurs.

Par la suite, Ruff a reconnu qu'il avait dit à ses joueurs de s'en prendre à leurs opposants.

sure if I read an ottawa nespaper or senators' channel they'll say otherwise

 

[De Lorimier]

Fine, the CP article quoted by RDS says it was an elbow. Now let's see what a Buffalo newspaper and Buffalo's coach are saying on the subject:

OTTAWA - Buffalo Sabres coach Lindy Ruff wasn't sure how long co-captain Chris Drury would be sidelined with a concussion but for the second straight day was plenty clear about the play that knocked out the star center.

Drury left the game in the second period with blood streaming from his head after Chris Neil dropped him with an open-ice hit moments after Drury released the puck. Ruff initially complained Neil hit Drury with an elbow, but replays showed Neil skated through Drury with his shoulder.

Still, many agreed with Ruff's assessment that it was a late hit that wasn't necessary.

"It was a predator-type of hit where Chris was vulnerable," Ruff said. "Neil went out of his way to deliver a blow to Chris' head.

"Nothing has changed for me. It was a deliberate attempt to put somebody out. At that time of the game, we had taken momentum. He came out to try to get some of that momentum back."

No penalty was called on the play, but Neil clearly caught Drury when the center wasn't looking. Ruff did not have a timetable for when his co-captain would return. Drury, who leads the Sabres with 33 goals, joined six other Sabres forwards who have been knocked out of the lineup.

"If you watch the replay, you can understand why I thought it was a blatant elbow," Ruff said. "When he goes through the hit, his elbow is shoulder high. There's force coming from swinging your arm or whatever it is. It was at least a second and a half late. He can see the back of Chris' jersey, but he can't see the front."
Senators coach Bryan Murray has maintained it was clean. He claimed Neil caught Drury with his head down, suggested Drury didn't have his helmet strapped tight enough and complained Ruff was crying wolf.

Buffalo News Link

So we all agree that it was a dirty hit. But just like Lindy Freakin' Ruff, who I gather is more an authority on the subject than you or any journalist from the CP, we should also admit that it wasn't an elbow, but a shoulder hit to the head. It's just as bad, but certainly not the same.

Let's summarize:

Dirty Yes.

Elbow No.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Trade!

To Montreal

D Josh Gorges
1st round pick 2007

To San Jose

D Craig Rivet
5th round pick 2008

 

[De Lorimier]

You're one page late there buddy!

What about the Neil hit then Subi? Elbow or Shoulder?

 

[pboily]

I originally objected to the part of the De Lorimier's CP article calling it an elbow to the head. After an amusing repartie, the exact same article is re-used as "evidence" that it was an elbow to the head.

Thanks for the laughs.

 

[pboily]

There is no NHL this year! Stop talking about something that isn't happening. You guys are all delusional. They are still on strike.

-New York Rangers fan

So you must be quite annoyed at this 10 year strike, no?

 

[Zarn]

So you must be quite annoyed at this 10 year strike, no?

1994 is longer than 10 years. I have the feeling that the NHL may never come back.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

What about the Neil hit then Subi? Elbow or Shoulder?

Looked like a shoulder to me

 

[downtown]

Hey, looks like the Blue Jackets just resigned Modin!

 

[Raisin Bran]

did the habs get screwed in this trade?

 

[NKVD]

no. my question is will josh play regularly? i mean look how many points he has this season...i mean it looks like he sucks, even with san josé.

I have one question for you guys. Does +/- are counted on PP and PK ?

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Trade!

New York Islanders

W Richard Zednik

Washington Capitals

2nd round pick 2007

no. my question is will josh play regularly? i mean look how many points he has this season...i mean it looks like he sucks, even with san josé.

TSN had him at 7th on the Sharks depth chart. I doubt he got much play time.

I have one question for you guys. Does +/- are counted on PP and PK ?

No, they aren't.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Trades!

To Los Angeles

2nd round pick
4th round pick

To Vancouver

D Brent Sopel



To Chicago

2nd round pick

To Vancouver

C Byran Smolinski





Three-way Trade

To Chicago

RW Jason Williams (from DET)

To Detroit

RW Kyle Calder (from PHI via CHI)

To Philadelphia

D Lasse Kukkonen
3rd round pick

 

[De Lorimier]

did the habs get screwed in this trade?

How can you even ask the question? We gave a defensive minded d-man and a fifth rounder for next summer in exchange of a first rounder this summer and Craig Rivet Junior. So we get a pretty decent draft pick and a younger version of Rivet for almost nothing. Rivet was a goner, a fifth pick is not the end of the world to give away.

Now the question is wether or not the rumors of Souray wanting to get closer to his daughter in California are true. If they are, then he has to be moved. If Rivet is worth a 1st pick in this crazy market, Souray could bring us some valuable young assets and the cap space to sign someone else. I would prefer to see him stay though. He's the main leader of this club and without him the powerplay is nonexistent. A progressively decreasing contract like the ones of Brian McCabe (making 7.15 now, 4.15 in the two final years of his contract) or Martin St-Louis (6 now, 4 in his last two years). Souray could get five for the next two seasons and then a little less over another two.

I think Markov is the one who's sure of staying in town. He applied for a canadian citizenship this year and loves the city. With him and Souray, Komisarek, Streit, Bouillon, Dandeneault, Gorges and Coté, we would have eight nhl-worthy defensemen next season. Sounds good.

Gorges is an ok d-man. He was the captain of his Memorial Cup winning team and is not meant to be an offensive d-man. Fans in San jose have nicknamed him Curious George since he often seems lost in his own end. For what it's worth, playing on the same squad as Scott Hannan, Matt Carle, Christian Ehrhoff, Marc-Édouard Vlasic and Kyle McLaren makes it easy to look bad for anyone playing the role of the sixth man.

I'm very pleased by this trade. Gainey's plan for this season is the playoffs. This team will be a true contender for the 2008-2009 season coinciding with the hundered anniversary of the club. I'm a happy patient fan.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Trade! Not official yet, but Roberts has apparently agreed to waive his no-trade clause, and he just has to sign it to make it official.

To Florida

D Noah Welch

To Pittsburgh

LW Gary Roberts