2011 MLB Thread
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Oh, believe me, if we never broke the curse, i would have my head buried in mu blankets right now, sobbing gently. Winning a few makes it a lot easier to say "you can't win 'em all".Heh. At least you've managed to keep some sense of humour about it.
Regarding Terry, I think he was just sick of it. Managing the Red Sox is a taxing position, Bostonians are passionate sports fans with high expectations. I assume it's more of a "Mission accomplished, now on to a less stressful position" thing than being forced to resign.
Very sad to see Son Of Tito leave. Lasting this long in Boston--and being successful most of the time--is no small feat. Thank you Tito. 
Lambert Simnel
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Well, Berkman's started that off very nicely...
Dammit, that's tomorrow.On the bright side, the Tigers will begin to beat the Yankee scum in less then three hours!
Lambert Simnel
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Hmm. Halladay doesn't need the extra-wide strikezone that the ump seems to be giving him - he's plenty good enough without this.
Mistake pitch by Lohse. Damn.
Mistake pitch by Lohse. Damn.
KMRblue1027
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The wide skrikezone is makeup for the first inning's nonsensical tiny zone.
Lambert Simnel
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Hah. Graceful in victory, eh ? Doc just left the ball to Berkman well up, and the four balls to Pujols were all well wide of the mark. Dunno where the strike zone size entered into either of those.
Still, no complaints about the result. We're well beaten (& that's with 2 innings to go). I would have lifted Lohse either after the Howard homer, or at least after Victorino singled, but the damage was already done.
Still, no complaints about the result. We're well beaten (& that's with 2 innings to go). I would have lifted Lohse either after the Howard homer, or at least after Victorino singled, but the damage was already done.
KMRblue1027
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In the walk to Him (Pujols) two of the balls were questionable. The others I agree they were off target. Lifting your starter wouldn't have done much to prevent Hot Raul from getting at least a base hit. Your bullpen is not good enough and Hot Ibanez is crazy.
I wonder if Doc's going out for the 9th? I wouldn't let him but I'm not Charlie. On to game 2 and Cliffy Lee vs. W/e guy who's on 3 days rest.
I wonder if Doc's going out for the 9th? I wouldn't let him but I'm not Charlie. On to game 2 and Cliffy Lee vs. W/e guy who's on 3 days rest.
And somehow I'm the crazy one for thinking we should use technology to fix this. I mean, strikes and balls aren't so important to the game that we should try to get them right, right?
Lambert Simnel
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On the tbs coverage all four of the pitches to Pujols looked well outside, both to the naked eye and on their graphic. But, hell, you're obviously not happy unless everyone admits the Phillies are better in every respect, in every inning. Must get a bit boring for you at times. And you can't guarantee Ibanez would have got a hit against a new pitcher - if you really think it was inevitable, then you're letting your partisanship blind you.
El Justo
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oh, Lambert, no doubt they were outside to pujols. it seemed they were pitching around him, nibbling on the outside at least. it's almost like the barry bonds rule, don't let him beat you. berkman otoh looked first pitch fastball and got it. doc missed his spot and it got crushed. he retired the next 21 though 
and that is not the most impressive thing to come out of today's game - it was the first 3 run hr halladay has given up since 2008 (!) heard it on the philly radio feed of the game. incredible.
we all collectively could not have written a script like that for Tampa on wednesday night. one of the most incredible single regular season clutch/destiny moments i've ever seen first hand outstanding theater too 
they could probably do a multitude of sociological tests on boston players and fans
i have a soft spot for francona. i watched the scrubs he had in philly when he cut his teeth. he'll land on his feet. maybe in chicago? better yet, who does boston get now?
and that is not the most impressive thing to come out of today's game - it was the first 3 run hr halladay has given up since 2008 (!) heard it on the philly radio feed of the game. incredible.we all collectively could not have written a script like that for Tampa on wednesday night. one of the most incredible single regular season clutch/destiny moments i've ever seen first hand
outstanding theater too they could probably do a multitude of sociological tests on boston players and fans i have a soft spot for francona. i watched the scrubs he had in philly when he cut his teeth. he'll land on his feet. maybe in chicago? better yet, who does boston get now?
Lambert Simnel
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oh, Lambert, no doubt they were outside to pujols. it seemed they were pitching around him, nibbling on the outside at least. it's almost like the barry bonds rule, don't let him beat you. berkman otoh looked first pitch fastball and got it. doc missed his spot and it got crushed. he retired the next 21 though
Agree with all of that. With a man on, but first base open, you are tempting fate pitching to Pujols. Going for something not far off an intentional walk makes perfect sense in my book, and it just happens to look a questionable move afterwards because of the mistake pitch to Berkman.
My original point was that the umpire was giving Halladay a pretty wide strikezone, especially on the outside. I suspect there's an element of the pitcher's reputation going before him, and the umpire convinces himself that the pitches must be on the edge, as it's Halladay after all. And, to be fair, a couple of Lohse's pitches looked on the outside, but were called as strikes - he just didn't use the extended strikezone anything like as efficiently as Halladay did.
If the Phils offense can continue to stay awake like they were for two innings, then it's series over. In fact, if they can consistently punish pitching mistakes like they did last night, then they will win the WS, no question, as the other side of the game is already well under control (regardless of giving up 6 runs in game 1).
El Justo
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i'm ok with a slightly expanded strike zone so long as it's consistent which it seemed like it was. 1st base open with pujols up? a no brainer. the only yhing missing from that AB was ruiz stepping to the side for an IBB. i would rather pitch to berkman any day over pujols. of course anyone after pujols in better than King Albert
one game at a time. Captain Cucumber tonight. you know i'll be watching and i'll have that twinkle
paging all Ibanez Critics...paging...bat speed is back atm. miss pitches and he shall crush them
anyone after pujols in better than King Albert one game at a time. Captain Cucumber tonight. you know i'll be watching and i'll have that twinkle
paging all Ibanez Critics...paging...bat speed is back atm. miss pitches and he shall crush them
KMRblue1027
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paging all Ibanez Critics...paging...bat speed is back atm. miss pitches and he shall crush them
Raul's bat speed is back because he is over his 106 PA dry streak. It's practically a scientifically proven fact that Ibanez goes though cycles of super crazy hitting and super slumps. Don't believe me cheack out these two posts and the Phils blog I use.
http://www.thegoodphight.com/2011/6/30/2252307/raul-ibanez-and-the-amazing-technicolor-streakcoat-25-games-100-plate
http://www.thegoodphight.com/2011/8/19/2372117/raul-ibanez-and-the-amazing-technicolor-update
Lambert Simnel
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Yeah, seen that before. Just shows that if you have enough baseball players, and enough games, and enough amateur statisticians, you're going to be able to come up with a "crazy, but true!!!" theory. It simply doesn't pass any sort of sense check. Even if you believe that baseball players do go through genuine hot and cold spells, rather than just being the victims of statistics and chance, it makes no sense that Ibanez is tied to a 25 game/100 PA cycle.
I particularly like the statement in one of the links, "The results, after the jump MAY JUST BLOW YOUR MIND!!" I have never yet met a genuine statistician who feels that his results needs upper case and multiple exclamation marks.
Worst of all, if you read through the whole of the article, it actually says that this "theory" predicts he'll be cold during the offseason:
I particularly like the statement in one of the links, "The results, after the jump MAY JUST BLOW YOUR MIND!!" I have never yet met a genuine statistician who feels that his results needs upper case and multiple exclamation marks.
Worst of all, if you read through the whole of the article, it actually says that this "theory" predicts he'll be cold during the offseason:
referenced article said:
KMRblue1027
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The article was written in August before Ibanez got hurt. The reason the timeline is off is because the 100 PA got stretched out over most of September. Currently he has about 50 or so PA before he cools down.
Lambert Simnel
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Which still leaves it nonsensical. What sort of underlying characteristic or trait are we purporting to cause this 100 PA cycle that is unaffected by gaps? It's bogus statistics.
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