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2012 Olympics
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Håkan Eriksson
Commander of the Swedes.
Stockholm!!
In 1912 the Olympics were in Stockholm. Now 100 years later should it be time to do it again...
Edit: Just a little thought, isn't this sport-forum material.
In 1912 the Olympics were in Stockholm. Now 100 years later should it be time to do it again...
Edit: Just a little thought, isn't this sport-forum material.
Grille
panel insect
Think of Munich 1972
Anti-EUA
Prince
Yeah Munich hosted in 72.
There are two brazilian cities who are having a "playoff" to see which of them will try to get the Olympics. It's Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. The winner will be announced in july 15th (I guess).
And Buenos Aires will try too IIRC.
Ok, my option goes to my city, not only because it's my city, but because it would be the first Olympic Games for Latin America.
And if Rio can't pull this off (almost 0% chance), I would say that Istanbul deserves it more than the other cities. So my final vote is Istanbul.
I would consider Havana, but can't be a real option, not because of Fidel Castro, but because the city doesn't have the necessary infrastructure to even start the big construction, and I don't think they would be helped at all to build it.
Just see what's happening in Santo Domingo, there are lots of buildings that are being built now, less than 2 months before the beggining. I hope they can pull this off in time.
Anyway, Rio de Janeiro, if not, Istanbul.
There are two brazilian cities who are having a "playoff" to see which of them will try to get the Olympics. It's Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. The winner will be announced in july 15th (I guess).
And Buenos Aires will try too IIRC.
Ok, my option goes to my city, not only because it's my city, but because it would be the first Olympic Games for Latin America.
And if Rio can't pull this off (almost 0% chance), I would say that Istanbul deserves it more than the other cities. So my final vote is Istanbul.
I would consider Havana, but can't be a real option, not because of Fidel Castro, but because the city doesn't have the necessary infrastructure to even start the big construction, and I don't think they would be helped at all to build it.
Just see what's happening in Santo Domingo, there are lots of buildings that are being built now, less than 2 months before the beggining. I hope they can pull this off in time.
Anyway, Rio de Janeiro, if not, Istanbul.
Ohwell
Deity
That actually sounds good. If games have a chance to bring social reform in Cuba, then it should be in Havana.
2012 is the Summer games right? Well what about Lima?
Oh poo!
The problem with Turkey is, they pick on the English. Not just a friendly jab, it's broken bottles and baseball bats!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/797035.stm
That story isn't a great example. I've had a much worse experience
Drewcifer
Agent of Karma
Mexico City 1968.
But it would be the first for South America and is probably overdue.
allan2
Gone Fishing
Minneapolis! 
(Actually, I believe we were in the running for the Winter Olympics a few years ago, the one Salt Lake City got . Not enough mountains around here (by that I mean NONE). But I think we'd actually be good for the summer ones--summers are gorgeous here, with beautiful deep blue skies.)
If New York hasn't yet had one, then they're definitely due for one. Istanbul might be a good choice too.
Has India ever hosted one? They're at least the second most populous country on Earth, maybe the first (figures conflict), so why not Bombay? Also, the region of Southeast Asia has never had one--Singapore or Bangkok?
Africa hasn't had one either--but there are a lot of places in Africa that, unfortunately, are racked with too much violence and chaos right now. But perhaps Cape Town or Nairobi wouldn't be bad choices either.
(Actually, I believe we were in the running for the Winter Olympics a few years ago, the one Salt Lake City got . Not enough mountains around here (by that I mean NONE). But I think we'd actually be good for the summer ones--summers are gorgeous here, with beautiful deep blue skies.) If New York hasn't yet had one, then they're definitely due for one. Istanbul might be a good choice too.
Has India ever hosted one? They're at least the second most populous country on Earth, maybe the first (figures conflict), so why not Bombay? Also, the region of Southeast Asia has never had one--Singapore or Bangkok?
Africa hasn't had one either--but there are a lot of places in Africa that, unfortunately, are racked with too much violence and chaos right now. But perhaps Cape Town or Nairobi wouldn't be bad choices either.
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
LA seems to like three-peets, so, I say: LA!
LesCanadiens
Deity
It is a documented fact that Vancouver is the best city in the world.
Anyways, I picked Havana. Castro will be dead by then and anyways it would be great for the cause of world socialism to have an entirely government funded olympic games.
Perfection
The Great Head.
New York, it's just so damn great allready but why not make it better?
Drewcifer
Agent of Karma
If the Olymics were held in Havana would Americans be allowed to go to them (without going to Mexico or Canada first and then lying to customs upon return)?
Kinniken
Riding with William
Madrid and New York are out due to Barcelona 92' and Atlanta 96' (no country, even the US, should get two games in less than twenty years...)
Havana is out as well. Not only would that make two consecutive games in dictatorship (I believe China should not have gotten the 2008 games), but Havana does not have the infrastructure required.
Leipzig is out as well, since Germany is already hosting the World Cup 2006.
That leaves London, Rome, Paris and Istanbul.
Istanbul would be the most interesting choice. It's rather unfortunate though that Athen is hosting the 2004 games, since the two are so close, but despite that Istanbul should still get them - provided its proposal is technicaly up to par.
If Istanbul's proposal is rejected, I would go for Paris. Its proposal for the 2008 games was very, very good, with a great use of its monuments (competitions organised below the Eiffel Tower, in the Grand Palais and the Petit Palais, and so on). Paris in general is a very beautiful city, whose wide avenues are very well suited to such an event. It is also the most "central" of the three in Western Europe.
Lastly, of the three it had its last games the longest ago (1900 & 1924, versus 1908 & 1948 for London and 1960 for Rome). France is also the country of Pierre de Coubertin, who reinvented the games in 1896, and thus has a "special tie" to the olympic movement.
Havana is out as well. Not only would that make two consecutive games in dictatorship (I believe China should not have gotten the 2008 games), but Havana does not have the infrastructure required.
Leipzig is out as well, since Germany is already hosting the World Cup 2006.
That leaves London, Rome, Paris and Istanbul.
Istanbul would be the most interesting choice. It's rather unfortunate though that Athen is hosting the 2004 games, since the two are so close, but despite that Istanbul should still get them - provided its proposal is technicaly up to par.
If Istanbul's proposal is rejected, I would go for Paris. Its proposal for the 2008 games was very, very good, with a great use of its monuments (competitions organised below the Eiffel Tower, in the Grand Palais and the Petit Palais, and so on). Paris in general is a very beautiful city, whose wide avenues are very well suited to such an event. It is also the most "central" of the three in Western Europe.
Lastly, of the three it had its last games the longest ago (1900 & 1924, versus 1908 & 1948 for London and 1960 for Rome). France is also the country of Pierre de Coubertin, who reinvented the games in 1896, and thus has a "special tie" to the olympic movement.
allan2
Gone Fishing
Didn't Lyon (or rather, Albertville) have the Winter ones not too long ago
? Although it was probably a little over 20 years before 2012. Anyway, you have a good argument for Paris. New York has NEVER had one (at least AFAIK), which is surprising. But that 20-year guideline might not be a bad idea, although it has been "broken" before. We had L.A. in 1984 and Atlanta in 1996.
I think Istanbul would be interesting too.
A good case has been brought up for Rio--South America indeed has never had one, and Rio, from pictures I've seen anyway, is gorgeous!
But what about India? Bombay or Delhi or Bangalore? Asia in general hasn't had very many of these (I think Tokyo and Seoul have been the only ones ever). But there's Beijing in 2008, so I suppose they don't want two in a row on the same continent.... But Singapore would be a good future candidate. Bangkok is just building its mass transit system, so that might make it a good location logistically in the future also.
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
Didn't Lake Placid, NY get the winter olympics a few years back?
[edit] it was 1980, they also had the summer olympics in 1932.[/edit]
My name is Plexus, thank you.
[edit] it was 1980, they also had the summer olympics in 1932.[/edit]
Code:
-Summer Olympics
1896 Athens, Greece I
1900 Paris, France II
1904 St. Louis, United States III
19061 Athens, Greece
1908 London, England IV
1912 Stockholm, Sweden V
19162 Berlin, Germany VI
1920 Antwerp, Belgium VII
1924 Paris, France VIII
1928 Amsterdam, Netherlands IX
1932 Los Angeles, United States X
1936 Berlin, Germany XI
19403 Tokyo, Japan XII
19443 London, England XIII
1948 London, England XIV
1952 Helsinki, Finland XV
1956 Melbourne, Australia XVI
1960 Rome, Italy XVII
1964 Tokyo, Japan XVIII
1968 Mexico City, Mexico XIX
1972 Munich, Germany XX
1976 Montréal, Canada XXI
1980 Moscow, Russia XXII
1984 Los Angeles, United States XXIII
1988 Seoul, South Korea XXIV
1992 Barcelona, Spain XXV
1996 Atlanta, United States XXVI
2000 Sydney, Australia XXVII
2004 Athens, Greece XXVIII
2008 Beijing, China XXIX
-Winter Olympics
1924 Chamonix, France I
1928 St. Moritz, Switzerland II
1932 Lake Placid, United States III
1936 Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany IV
19403 Sapporo, Japan
19443 Cortina d'Ampezzo, Italy
1948 St. Moritz, Switzerland V
1952 Oslo, Norway VI
1956 Cortina dAmpezzo, Italy VII
1960 Squaw Valley, United States VIII
1964 Innsbruck, Austria IX
1968 Grenoble, France X
1972 Sapporo, Japan XI
1976 Innsbruck, Austria XII
1980 Lake Placid, United States XIII
1984 Sarajevo, Yugoslavia XIV
1988 Calgary, Canada XV
1992 Albertville, France XVI
1994 Lillehammer, Norway XVII
1998 Nagano, Japan XVIII
2002 Salt Lake City, United States XIX
2006 Turin, Italy XXMy name is Plexus, thank you.
Kinniken
Riding with William
Originally posted by allan2
Didn't Lyon (or rather, Albertville) have the Winter ones not too long ago
True, Albertville 92'. Winter games are much less prestigious though.
I'm pretty sure games in Paris would be great, well organised, and so on. However, it's true that it would not be "ground-breaking" as Beijing 2008.
Well, considering the number of great cities in the US, not everyone can host one. It's true though that having Atlanta host the last one was a strange choice. In any case, I had forgotten LA 84' ; sorry but for me that settles it. Three games in 30 years is way, way to much for a country...
Istanbul or a South American city would be a good choice. My only concern is technical - would the choosen city realy have the mean to organise in good conditions such a huge event? Istanbul, Brazil and Argentina all have rather weak economies these days.
I would be all for a south-asian candidacy, especialy from an Indian city, but in 2016. The CIO tries not to have consecutive games on the same continent, and I feel its a good idea. In any case, AFAIK, there is no Asian city running.
Edit: Plexia, could you edit your post and get rid of that overly long line? It's forcing the table width to be bigger than my browser window, messing with the layout. Thanks.
Edit2: Thanks.
Greadius
:yeah:
Nice to see the great American cities like Lake Placid and Squaw Valley represented.
The annoying overrepresentation of Western and wealth in these games seems like an inherent result; it takes a lot of money and resources to host the games, so it seems unlikely nations which struggle with finances are going to fork for the prestige of the Olympics.
I'd like to see Istanbul; geographically it may be close to Athens but its worlds away in many other regards.
The athletes could stay in peasant shacks, and only rusty iron medals would be given out so all athletes remain equal.
And they could add the 'rafting to Florida' event to respect local culture [dance]
The annoying overrepresentation of Western and wealth in these games seems like an inherent result; it takes a lot of money and resources to host the games, so it seems unlikely nations which struggle with finances are going to fork for the prestige of the Olympics.
I'd like to see Istanbul; geographically it may be close to Athens but its worlds away in many other regards.
The athletes could stay in peasant shacks, and only rusty iron medals would be given out so all athletes remain equal.And they could add the 'rafting to Florida' event to respect local culture [dance]
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