2K/Fraxis dont like poor people

[Wraith23]

Most useless thread ever.

You want poor people to play Civ? go and buy them a copy.

 

[HamTard]

Is it true that if you buy steam games at a retail store, the disc that comes with it is only some sort of steam install, and not the actual game?

On another note, I have decided that being the voice for the poor and huddled masses is too much work, so if anyone feels like taking on the cause, this is your moment to shine.

You can install from the disc, but you still need to connect to Steam to activate. That involves downloading something like an unlock patch with key files in it. No DRM can stop piracy, but Steamworks means that the game cannot be pirated before the release day, because the unlock file isn't available anywhere except at Valve HQ before release day.

Games getting leaked weeks before they are for sale is the greatest fear of every publisher, because interested people might pirate it, play it, and get bored with it before they even get the chance to buy it. They are more likely to lose sales to games that are pirated before launch than games pirated days or weeks after launch.

 

[tom2050]

It's another method of penalizing the legit user. Legit user has to deal with all the DRM, Steam and all the Steam issues, having an internet connection, being able to connect to steam. On day 0, Steam will probably be down often from all the people trying to log on. So you may run into problems even being able to play your new purchase.

And sure, some play online, but a majority probably do not play Civ online more than offline.

Meanwhile, the hackers have no DRM, no Steam problems, and no internet required non-sense... didn't pay for it, but probably can't play online.

It's another amazing story of how legitimate users get treated like damn thieves. If you like DRM and Steam or not... this is the way it works. I've used Steam like programs before, that didn't require internet, and I am fine with those... but it's still pathetic how they treat their loyal paying customers.

 

[Avs]

It's another method of penalizing the legit user. Legit user has to deal with all the DRM, Steam and all the Steam issues, having an internet connection, being able to connect to steam. On day 0, Steam will probably be down often from all the people trying to log on. So you may run into problems even being able to play your new purchase.

And sure, some play online, but a majority probably do not play Civ online more than offline.

Meanwhile, the hackers have no DRM, no Steam problems, and no internet required non-sense... didn't pay for it, but probably can't play online.

It's another amazing story of how legitimate users get treated like damn thieves. If you like DRM and Steam or not... this is the way it works. I've used Steam like programs before, that didn't require internet, and I am fine with those... but it's still pathetic how they treat their loyal paying customers.

This is a valid point. On day 0, there may be connection issues and downloading slowness/decryption time because of the massive amounts of users trying to get at Civ5. Though some will argue, just wait for day 1. Also this depends on whether pre-loading is allowed.

As for players playing offline as a majority, disputable. Some players here play only multiplayer, while others are exclusive to singleplayer.

I do agree that there are huge improvements that Steam could use. As for legit users being treated like damn thieves...if that was applicable to all users I'd agree.

 

[Birdjaguar]

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