on being asked to explain his choice of Caligula:
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Not quite sure how they were picked for humor value.
The same can be said (in terms of ruling over a vast amount of territory) of many Roman emperors. Caligula was a paranoid, delinquent child who reigned for less than four years. Compared against figures such as Trajan, Hadrian, and Marcus Aurelius, who ruled over even more territory even longer, constructed far more important buildings and monuments, and were also not assassinated for being crazy by their bodyguards, Caligula doesn't stand much of a chance.
If we need to have another figure from the Imperial days of Rome, make it one of the 5 Good Emperors (because we still haven't directly addressed some figures from the Republic of Rome, like Gaius Marius).
To add 3 over the very larg list of Civ Leaders, here's my choises:
* JFK (USA) I was listening today over JFK, and I agree on what they told about him. He was a master in Media, and create a great empaty with the American people and also over the world. And according to them, he was elected the 2nd most important US President of all time (the 1st one was Lincoln).
JFK? Seriously? The second most important president in US history? More than likely, this was a popular opinion poll, and popular opinion polls always overrate very recent leaders. JFK receives overwhelming adoration from the Democratic Party, and Reagan seems to have achieved cult-like status.
If America was to receive a fourth leader, I think the strongest case can be made for Theodore Roosevelt. He was the last Progressive Republican president, and one of the most successful in office besides Lincoln, who ran on the platform of preventing the spread of slavery into territories, and ended up stopping it. Permanently. The word
Progressive, in this day, was in short a pro-scientific, pro-conservation, pro-labor, anti-corruption agenda. I could write at least a couple pages on this guy, but it would do much more good if you checked out online references (even Wiki).
Hell, I would even replace FDR with TR, if it came down to it. I would be content with having Washington, Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt as the American leaders. FDR would be fourth on my list.
Öjevind Lång;8653737 said:
Yes, it was. Thank you. I think that if Frederick the Great of Prussia can be chosen to represent all of Germany (something most Germans don't seem to mind), then Alfonso the Wise should certainly be a valid choice as a more tolerant alternative to Isabella. As for Gustavus II Adolphus, he was one of the most remarkable kings Europe has ever produced, and I am not speaking as a Swedish nationalist here. He and his Chancellor, Axel Oxenstierna, not only made Sweden a military and political major power in Europe; they also did great things to promote learnng in Sweden and its newly acquired territories. The problem is that he would probably not be acceptable as a Scandinavian ruler to Danes or Norwegians; he (and his successors) beat the military bums of Denmark/Norway rather to thoroughly for that.
I've advocated before to break up Germany/HRE into Prussia/Austria, but the response is usually lukewarm at best. I think the reason why the Germans don't mind Frederick and Bismarck, despite both being Prussians, is that they were both incredibly successful leaders in their times and aren't associated with the vicious war crimes of a particularly popular later suggestion for a leader. In short, while the Assembly Plant is a fine UB for Germany to represent their quick industrialization and modern productive capabilities, I think it would be better to have an earlier UU (after all, German tribes have a history dating back to the Roman Empire).
The best move for Gustavus II Adolphus, I think, is to break up the Vikings into the Danish (under Canute, which in my game is a renamed-Ragnar, still working on the city lists and such) and the Swedish (under Gustav II Adolf, which they would probably call him over the Latin version of his name).