attackfighter
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Russia takes over Europe? Well now that's just asking for a new thread about lack of plausibility in MW3. Will make on tomorrow
3 Reasons why the Events in Homefront aren't Plausible
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Maniacal
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Just reuse the old MW thread, or better yet don't bother because no one is interested in that 'discussion'.
They don't. Nobody lambastes Curse of Monkey Island for not being able to happen in the real world. But unless you're playing something deliberately silly where all of the rules of everything basically go out the window, you expect a sort of internal logic for a game. You expect a game that is partially based on the real world to have events in it that would at least theoretically make sense in the real world. The latter two Modern Warfare games have all the trappings of a plausible game except the setting. That's jarring. It's stupid. And it's lazy.
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It's a video game
If you want something that is based on the real world and also fact-based, just watch a documentary
Maniacal
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*facepalms* There is a difference between an unrealistic or fantasy element to a game and something that is completely illogical, breaks immersion and is just bad design.
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Idk, I get pretty immersed in Mass Effect.
That's...what even is that? It's a total non sequitur.
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The way I see it, this is a rather future-based game which is also based on various unlikely factors, but still possible. It isn't plausible in the sense that it would happen RIGHT NOW but from what I can tell FROM THE SITE ITSELF it doesn't claim to happen right now, but rather in fifteen years from now. Seems like a big enough window for America to collapse and Korea to find itself in a much stronger position than it was before.
I think the only problem you guys have with this game is that since it has America in it and the word "plausible" in the description you expect it to be a video game about USA #1.
Maniacal
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Except they ARE, militarily anyway. Homefront's premise, as has already been explained, is way too quick and ridiculous and entirely just a quick hack job of getting a bad guy into the game. It doesn't have a huge impact on the rest of the game', but it is still extremely implausible.
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No, it's more on the lines of a poorly made script. Premise and suspension of disbelief are extremely important for any work of art (using the word "art" very loosely here). Specially because Homefront takes the topic dead serious, which doesn't help it's case at all.
On the topic that if it's less plausible because of American cultural values, the answer is no. It's less plausible because it assumes that a rag tag cold war relic could shape up to be an actual threat to any country that is not within it's own region in an absurd amount of time (China had a relatively better chance there).
It would had made far more sense if the NK had attacked Japan or South Korea, but instead they wanted to replicate the now extremely outdated anti-commie sentiment featured in Red Dawn. So in this case it is because of the USA #1 point of view that a theoretical super power shaped North Korea would strike the US first.
On the topic that if it's less plausible because of American cultural values, the answer is no. It's less plausible because it assumes that a rag tag cold war relic could shape up to be an actual threat to any country that is not within it's own region in an absurd amount of time (China had a relatively better chance there).
It would had made far more sense if the NK had attacked Japan or South Korea, but instead they wanted to replicate the now extremely outdated anti-commie sentiment featured in Red Dawn. So in this case it is because of the USA #1 point of view that a theoretical super power shaped North Korea would strike the US first.
attackfighter
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It's ironic how the American wet dream is to be invaded by another country. They are a land of conquerors with only one wish: to one day be conquered themselves.
Although to be fair I find the premise of my country (Canada) being invaded quite appealing also. I think being ruled by the likes of Khan Timur Leng would do Canada some good... I don't get the whole guerilla warfare aspect though. Well I do get it, but I just find it very absurd. It's like the ultimate wish fulfillment fantasy of every drab, middle class,doughy suburban video game playing kid come to life. It's utterly convincing that these sheltered cosmopolitan types are capable of waging war to any effect. You see it repeated quite a bit in American media - the first example I'd give is... Red Dawn (forgot it's name for a sec). Something about Americans and their power trips
Although to be fair I find the premise of my country (Canada) being invaded quite appealing also. I think being ruled by the likes of Khan Timur Leng would do Canada some good... I don't get the whole guerilla warfare aspect though. Well I do get it, but I just find it very absurd. It's like the ultimate wish fulfillment fantasy of every drab, middle class,doughy suburban video game playing kid come to life. It's utterly convincing that these sheltered cosmopolitan types are capable of waging war to any effect. You see it repeated quite a bit in American media - the first example I'd give is... Red Dawn (forgot it's name for a sec). Something about Americans and their power trips
But it's not. Fifteen years to mold a tiny country into a world-bestriding superpower with the fleet and air assets to take down what is currently the most powerful state in the world? Napoleon couldn't do that, and he had a way better start than Kim Jeong Un does.
Look, if the plot involved aliens giving the NKs infinite amounts of ray guns with advanced power supplies and thousands of spaceships to transport their troops, while simultaneously smashing several asteroids into the United States, maybe this whole scenario could be plausible. (Or, rather, "plausible".) As it is, it's a joke.
But that's Homefront, and you and I were talking about Modern Warfare 2 and 3, which is entirely another carton of eggs.
You do know that Scampi is a Canadian and he's about as anti-American as Canadians come, right?Synsensa said:
sophie
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The actual unification of Korea is supposed to be what? 2015? I'm still getting hung up on how the hell they managed to pull that one; forget about all the other crap after it.
Maniacal
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I prefer extremely concerned and disturbed neighbour but yeah, sorry
mechaerik
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Yeah, its supposed to be 2015 or so. I vaguely remember hearing that the timeline had Kim Jong-un somehow peacefully unifying them and gaining a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts.
attackfighter
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Well they gave Obama the peace prize, so it's only fitting that Kim Jong il gets it too...
Why would conquest by Tamerlane be good for any country? 
I feel that a bunch of people are being rather disingenuous in associating fantasy elements that are important to a setting with fantasy elements that have been poorly inserted into an ostensibly realistic and feasible setting.
I feel that a bunch of people are being rather disingenuous in associating fantasy elements that are important to a setting with fantasy elements that have been poorly inserted into an ostensibly realistic and feasible setting.
Aroddo
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Well, I'm sure you enjoyed the Fallout series then. Canada was successfully annexed by the USA in 2067. Totally peaceful, like.
Link to video.
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