4-leaders mod

[Civciv5]

Absolute monarchy replaces police state because a lot of leaders would have Hereditary rule as Favorite civic if it wasn't.

Also, not 100% sure this is from this mod, but when I put workers to automatically improve the trade network, they build forts over any unimproved resources they find.

That's in BtS normally.

 

[dave_lf]

Yeah; I figured that out today. Didn't realize forts could provide resources. Learn something new every day.

 

[Dumanios]

If you are adding Armenia, then perhaps give them the following.

Leaders: Hayk(the legendary founder of Armenia), Tigranes II(Ruler of Armenia at its height), Ashot I(To represent Medieval Armenia), and Andranik(Revolutionary Hero and leader of the Republic of Armenia)
UU: Vishap Infantry(as seen in Ad Infinitum)
UB: Khachkar(See Above)

 

[Civciv5]

I will add Armenia with Georgia as an Georgian-Armenian Empire,their planned leaders are Tigranes II,Ashot I,Tamar and George V.

 

[dacubz145]

Why would you combine them if they were never the same country? Seems a bit cheesy when there has been thousands of empires and countries throughout history, and after 40, the next one you add is combined of two. I agree with Dumanios, Armenia has a much longer richer history then georgia and in my opinion it is better off more acurate instead of making something up like that

just my opinion though

 

[Dumanios]

Georgia:

Leaders: Tamar, George V, Ramishvili, and um... Sakashvili?
UU: Monaspa Lancer(Replaces Knight or Horse Archer, +50% Attack on Hills, +50% against Melee units)
UB: Ikoner's Studio (Replaces Theatre, +1 per 5% Culture spending (versus 10% for default))

 

[Civciv5]

As I said I will combine the two civs,because there are no animated leaderheads for some of those leaders.

 

[Civciv5]

Spoiler :

Should I use this as background or should I keep the old one?
Also I have trouble finding a second UU and UB for Morocco (they already have Black Guard and Kasbah as UU and UB),suggestions?
Also when I'm done with v2,I don't think that I will add new civs after that version so (good) suggestions are welcome.
The current civs that are going to be added:
Poland/Lithuania:Casimir III,Jadwiga,Jan III Sobieski,Vytautas
Polynesia:Kamehameha,Salamasina,'Aho'eitu,Te Rauparaha
Thailand:Ramkhamhaeng,Narai,Naresuan,Mongkut
Burma:Kyansittha,Shin Sawbu,Bayinnaung,Alaungpaya
Morocco:Yaqub al-Mansur,Zaynab an-Nafzawiyyah,Abu Yusuf Yaqub ibn Abd Al-Haqq
Kongo:Nzinga Mbande,Nimi,Nzinga Mbemba,Mobutu
Sri Lanka:Anula,Dutugamunu,Parakramabahu I,Vimaladharmasuriya I
Georgia/Armenia:Tamar,Tigranes II,George V,Ashot I
Uzbek:Shaybani Khan,Timur,Muhammad II,Ismail Samani
Afghani/Pakistani:Mahmud of Ghazni,Muhammad Ghori,Ahmad Shah Durrani,Benazir Bhutto
Italyope Julius II,Pope Joan,Lorenzo de Medici,Enrico Dandolo

 

[dacubz145]

good ideas for more civs before v 2 or ideas for other things post the update?

 

[Civciv5]

good ideas for more civs before v 2 or ideas for other things post the update?

Both

 

[dacubz145]

Both

Well i am assuming for civs you do not want the obvioius ones because if you did austria hungary and israel would be in already. You could do spethink loke denmark/norway since you like combining civs and those were actually combined for years. Sweden is another one id like to see. The philippines would be an interesting one or possibly a modern day south american civ??

 

[Civciv5]

Should I keep Holy Rome or should I replace it by Austria-Hungary?
Sweden and the Phillipines have not enough animated leaders.
I only add civs that are great and important enough so no modern nations or empires/nations that existed for less then 250 years.
Israel seems a good choice,but they are a very small nation,but they are great enough for me?
Suggestions about their leaders and UUs and UBs (total of 4 unique Unique buildings and units).

 

[dacubz145]

Should I keep Holy Rome or should I replace it by Austria-Hungary?
Sweden and the Phillipines have not enough animated leaders.
I only add civs that are great and important enough so no modern nations or empires/nations that existed for less then 250 years.
Israel seems a good choice,but they are a very small nation,but they are great enough for me?
Suggestions about their leaders and UUs and UBs (total of 4 unique Unique buildings and units).

Well for the philipines it would be the whole history of the islands not just the modern one

Sweden lasted for the last 250 years and had a way bigger impact on history than the vikings in my opinion, and definatly more than a georgia/armenia civ. And i though you made most of the LH yourself?

I mean if you were going for great civs the choices would have been different from the begining i would think. Poland and Hungary go in long before Tibet and Nusantara.

Not a huge fan of putting israel in usually because for most of history it was controlled by others (tha arabs, ottomas etc). I would really say the swedish are next important but if you want to go another way like i said denmark-norway would be a good choice. Or berber possibly. I got two UU and 1 UB for sweden in my eurocentrism mod so you would just need to come up with another UB

 

[Civciv5]

Poland and Hungary go in long before Tibet and Nusantara

That is debatable.Maybe they are more important for Europe,but not for Asia.

Well for the philipines it would be the whole history of the islands not just the modern one
Sweden lasted for the last 250 years and had a way bigger impact on history than the vikings in my opinion, and definatly more than a georgia/armenia civ. And i though you made most of the LH yourself?
Not a huge fan of putting israel in usually because for most of history it was controlled by others (tha arabs, ottomas etc). I would really say the swedish are next important but if you want to go another way like i said denmark-norway would be a good choice. Or berber possibly. I got two UU and 1 UB for sweden in my eurocentrism mod so you would just need to come up with another UB

The only choices that I can think of are Lapu-Lapu and Manuel Quezon (we need 4 animated leaders)
The Vikings represent Norway and Denmark.
But I don't think Sweden has enough animated leader and I made many leaderheads not most.Possible leaders are Gustav Adolph,Christina,Gustav Vasa and Magnus III
OK,I will add Sweden if you can help me to find/request/make a leaderhead or Queen Christina.
OK,then no Israel.
Berbers are represented by Morocco and they were not a nation or civilization.

 

[dacubz145]

That is debatable.Maybe they are more important for Europe,but not for Asia.


The only choices that I can think of are Lapu-Lapu and Manuel Quezon (we need 4 animated leaders)
The Vikings represent Norway and Denmark.
But I don't think Sweden has enough animated leader and I made many leaderheads not most.Possible leaders are Gustav Adolph,Christina,Gustav Vasa and Magnus III
OK,I will add Sweden if you can help me to find/request/make a leaderhead or Queen Christina.
OK,then no Israel.
Berbers are represented by Morocco and they were not a nation or civilization.

Tibet was usually controlled by another civ, and the empire only lasted 200 some years while poland and austria have been around for centuries. Hard to say one indonesian civilization is really important, since there were so many. I say if you group them as a whole id give you that.
I wont be helping with any leaderheads, I dont really make any and really not interested in doing anything more than giving ideas. I prefer static lh

 

[Civciv5]

Tibet was usually controlled by another civ, and the empire only lasted 200 some years

The Tibetan Empire existed only 200 years,Tibet as a nation existed from 600 AD-1700 AD and again from 1912-1951,that is more then 1000 years!
It may have paid tribute to various foreign empires but was never annexed until the 18th century by the Kangxi Emperor.

 

[Dumanios]

For Israel, there's David, Solomon, Ben-Gurion, and sooner or later, Novatar's Hezekiah.
Hungary: There's Arpad, St. Stephen, Lajos Kossuth, Imre Nagy, Miklos Horthy, and Atilla. Pick four.
Australia: Yagan, Curtin, Menzies, and Deakin

As for bland united Indonesia issue, it makes as much sense as one Indian, Greek, Arabic, Native American, or Celtic civs. For most or all of these civs histories, they weren't unified nations.

 

[Civciv5]

I already said that I will not add modern nations because nation≠civilization.
Some nations or empires qualify as civilization,others do not.
I will add Austria-Hungary with Franz-Joseph,Maria Theresa,Stephen I and Mary of Hungary
I'm still considering Israel,but I'm not sure...

 

[Civciv5]

I'm thinking about giving some civs 5 leaders.
Only important nations such as USA,China,Russia,India....
Suggestions?

 

[dacubz145]

America - Woodrow Wilson, Reagan or Andrew Jackson
Russia - Lenin
France - Joan de Arc
Greece - George I
Korea - Kim Jong Il
Spain - Charles V (along with HRE)