4 new screenshots (World Builder)

[Thunderfall]

I merged civaddict098's thread into this threads, since they are the about the same shots. Also edited the first post and the thread a title. Only the first 4 are new.

 

[North King]

Hmm, good job, Firaxis. The city graphics are now bearable.

 

[AngelLeliel]

There are two unit very similar.
The first row 9th column, and the 4th row 9th column.

I think one of them is the Conquistador, but what is the other one?
They look all the same but only a little difference between their armor

 

[Saltylicious]

This is the coolest screen shot I have ever seen.

It IS an awesome screenshot, but how am I supposed to capture that city...? Is there a "city center" building?

 

[Carver]

This is a great find Bshock.

I was hoping to have at least one more aircraft. I see a prop fighter, jet fighter, prop bomber, and stealth bomber. Another jet bomber like the B-52 or the B-1 would be cool.

 

[Carver]

I noticed a few things with the units:

-apparently no "modern" artillery, you go from catapul to cannon to artillery (a la "Replacable Parts" in III). I assume "machine gun" is an artillery unit?

Well, I see 4 arty units: catapult, cannon, WWI-type arty, and WWII+ arty.

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

This is a great find Bshock.

I was hoping to have at least one more aircraft. I see a prop fighter, jet fighter, prop bomber, and stealth bomber. Another jet bomber like the B-52 or the B-1 would be cool.

And there only seems to be one missile(Probably the ICBM), as opposed to the 3 in Civ 3. :/

Actually, on closer review of the Unit list it seems military units have been cut down on a lot. Take away the 4 wild animals, 7 missionaries, 5 great people, and 18 UUs, and the remaining list for general military forces are pretty small. That is fairly dissapointing, but mods and expansions will fix it I'm sure.

 

[Genocidicbunny]

there doesnt seem to be that many units, or are those just categories?

 

[Andrew_Jay]

Well, I see 4 arty units: catapult, cannon, WWI-type arty, and WWII+ arty.

The "WWI-type arty" appears to be a machine gun. I don't deny that it's an artillery unit, just noting that there does not seem to be a modern rocket artillery (III) or howitzer (II).

Though it is weird that "machine gun" would be the only artillery present in the First World War era.

 

[Vael]

Why do we need 300 units anyways?

How many of the units in Civ 3 were completely unused, wastes of art? I could name a dozen. There's no reason to have a ton of units unless they're all going to be used and have a proper place. Firaxis shouldn't add units just to add them, IMO.

 

[Leonel]

Yes! Urban sprawl! XD

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Why do we need 300 units anyways?

How many of the units in Civ 3 were completely unused, wastes of art? I could name a dozen. There's no reason to have a ton of units unless they're all going to be used and have a proper place. Firaxis shouldn't add units just to add them, IMO.

Because some of the gaps between units are simply too big. For example, a WW1 or even WW2 era submarine doesn't hold a candle to a modern hunter-killer sub, which is completely different to the equally modern ballistic missile submarine. In a perfect world you should constantly be updating your military to keep pace with scientific developments, instead of using one type of unit for almost 100 turns at a time.

 

[Lucky The Fox]

In a perfect world you should constantly be updating your military to keep pace with scientific developments, instead of using one type of unit for almost 100 turns at a time.

In a perfect world I'd be spending half of my playtime clicking upgrade-button?

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

In a perfect world I'd be spending half of my playtime clicking upgrade-button?

Hyperbole much?

But to answer your question, yes you should have to be upgrading constantly. Keeping a large, top of the line military costs a lot of money. Look at the U.S. Defense Budget for proof of that.

 

[Lucky The Fox]

But to answer your question, yes you should have to be upgrading constantly. Keeping a large, top of the line military costs a lot of money. Look at the U.S. Defense Budget for proof of that.

Doesn't the unit support kind of reflect that?

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Doesn't the unit support kind of reflect that?

I think unit support reflects things like salaries of the soldiers and maintaining the equipment, not replacing a wing of cold war strategic bombers with some stealth bombers.

And I just want to point out that I don't think we need to add dozens more units or anything like that(though that will make for interesting mods later, I'm sure) its just that I personally believe the naval and air units in particular could be fleshed out a little better.

 

[Carver]

And there only seems to be one missile(Probably the ICBM), as opposed to the 3 in Civ 3. :/

Well, I would be okay with the ICBM as the only missle if and only if the bombers can carry nuclear bombs. In fact, I might like that better than Civ3.

 

[lost_civantares]

Well, I would be okay with the ICBM as the only missle if and only if the bombers can carry nuclear bombs. In fact, I might like that better than Civ3.

Yah! cheap nukes all around!

I think unit support reflects things like salaries of the soldiers and maintaining the equipment, not replacing a wing of cold war strategic bombers with some stealth bombers.

The lack of upgrades could be at least partually explained by the use of unit upgrades (yes, I know, it's through battle experence but still...).

 

[grumbler]

The "WWI-type arty" appears to be a machine gun. I don't deny that it's an artillery unit, just noting that there does not seem to be a modern rocket artillery (III) or howitzer (II).

Tenth column/third row - what's that? Couldn't that possible be a mobile rocket artillery? Also, if you compare the icon to the tech tree, it seems to come with Robotics. And Robotics granted the ability to build rocket artillery in Civ3.

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

Well, though I for one would never want to see 300+ units in a game, I do think there is room enough for around 95-100 units in the game, something I hope the modders and Firaxians will give us over the next 6-12 months !

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.