It won't be on June 19th. At least we all hope.
42,000 users for Civ 5 peaked today on steam
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It won't be on June 19th. At least we all hope.
i_imperator
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Wait till next month when gods and kings is released, if its good, those numbers will get bigger and bigger...
I regret buying the base game when it came out now,bit of a waste of 45euros if i knew it was going to be on sale for 7bucks i wouldve waited, but oh well, guess ive learned my lesson.
Steam usually dosent do sales on expansions do they? Im under the impression they don't but if they do im going to wait this time.
Still though its good to hear that people are playing it!
I regret buying the base game when it came out now,bit of a waste of 45euros if i knew it was going to be on sale for 7bucks i wouldve waited, but oh well, guess ive learned my lesson.
Steam usually dosent do sales on expansions do they? Im under the impression they don't but if they do im going to wait this time.
Still though its good to hear that people are playing it!
IrishBandit
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I don't get why everyone hates on steam? It is DRM sure, but it has so many benefits that outweigh having a tiny program running.
gingerbill
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Civ 5 has had a lot of players on steam even before the sale at various points in time . It's obvious it's sold well.
Wait till next month when gods and kings is released, if its good, those numbers will get bigger and bigger...
I regret buying the base game when it came out now,bit of a waste of 45euros if i knew it was going to be on sale for 7bucks i wouldve waited, but oh well, guess ive learned my lesson.
Steam usually dosent do sales on expansions do they? Im under the impression they don't but if they do im going to wait this time.
Still though its good to hear that people are playing it!
Steam doesn't actually do the sales, though they sometimes suggest companies participate in a store wide sale. 2K has the final say on pricing and if history is any indication, Gods & Kings will see big discounts but that could be up to a year after release.
If they do a second expansion (depending on how G&Ks sells), they will surely discount G&K before the second expansion.
Still doesn't change the fact that Civ5 is one of the 10 most played PC games out there.
Says who outside Steam? Steam is not the sum of all PC gaming...
I'll try to explain. It's a change of paradigm. And it's a mater of trust and controll.
Before DRM you bought your tape, floppy or disk and could do with it whatever you wanted. Play it, eat it, burn it. It was your physical property. And you had to take care you don't break or loose it. It was your responsibility.
Now you basically buy a licence to use something that's out there in the web. And some anonymous server basically controlls and decides whether you are allowed to play "your" game or not. As long as it work's it's great. If it does not work it's not great. And if the server is down or broken or gone for whatever reason it's usually "licence revoked" and game over.
So if you don't like beeing controlled (basically more or less) every time you want to play "your" game, if you as a paying customer don't want to be treated like a suspect criminal who can't be trusted and sells hundreds of copies whenever he's not controlled properly - and ultimately if you don't trust in the controller server beeing around long enough in the future while you still want to play a game that has grown dear to you (like some Civfanatics still do with twenty year old Civ 1), then you have quite good reasons to hate and reject Steam and online DRM in general (although I have to admit Steam is not to nastiest RM out there). If all that does not bother you - well, then you get what you deserve!
I used to be all uppity about steam at first. Then I found it rather convenient. All my game files are backed up in case something gets messed up, it is easy to fix. As far as buying discs for games, they are easy to get when they go on sale. That's if you really want one to put away.
If there is one thing I don't like about steam, it is letting friends family borrow games. We have always done that. Sure you can borrow the game a bit, I am playing this other one for awhile, so take your time. That kind of thing.
The other thing I don't like is not having access to certain files. For instance, with ETW/NTW/S2TW/FoTS, you cannot mod the nations/troops/etc, like you can with RTW and MTW2. The same goes with CiV, you have limited access to many things unlike with CiIV. Modding is also more difficult with CiV. Which I don't like, but I will learn how. With steam taking over many things have changed, which we never used to worry about before.
If there is one thing I don't like about steam, it is letting friends family borrow games. We have always done that. Sure you can borrow the game a bit, I am playing this other one for awhile, so take your time. That kind of thing.
The other thing I don't like is not having access to certain files. For instance, with ETW/NTW/S2TW/FoTS, you cannot mod the nations/troops/etc, like you can with RTW and MTW2. The same goes with CiV, you have limited access to many things unlike with CiIV. Modding is also more difficult with CiV. Which I don't like, but I will learn how. With steam taking over many things have changed, which we never used to worry about before.
Says who outside Steam? Steam is not the sum of all PC gaming...
While I haven't agree with a lot of what you have said, Diablo 3, Battlefield 3, WOW, and League of Legneds are all examples of hugely popular PC titles not on steam.
It is estimated from competitors that steam has over 50% of the digital sales market however. So I think the active player counts in steam is a pretty good way to say a game is immensely popular on PC. Maybe not in the top 10 however.
i_imperator
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Ah ok, there is a small 10% discount right now, so i might take advantage of that. Not much of a discount its like 3 euros, but i suppose its better than nothing...
The Little One
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So you don't like Steam because it can be DRM, or because it's Digital Distribution? Digital Distribution is here to stay and has pretty much killed CDs.I'll try to explain. It's a change of paradigm. And it's a mater of trust and controll.
Before DRM you bought your tape, floppy or disk and could do with it whatever you wanted. Play it, eat it, burn it. It was your physical property. And you had to take care you don't break or loose it. It was your responsibility.
Now you basically buy a licence to use something that's out there in the web. And some anonymous server basically controlls and decides whether you are allowed to play "your" game or not. As long as it work's it's great. If it does not work it's not great. And if the server is down or broken or gone for whatever reason it's usually "licence revoked" and game over.
So if you don't like beeing controlled (basically more or less) every time you want to play "your" game, if you as a paying customer don't want to be treated like a suspect criminal who can't be trusted and sells hundreds of copies whenever he's not controlled properly - and ultimately if you don't trust in the controller server beeing around long enough in the future while you still want to play a game that has grown dear to you (like some Civfanatics still do with twenty year old Civ 1), then you have quite good reasons to hate and reject Steam and online DRM in general (although I have to admit Steam is not to nastiest RM out there). If all that does not bother you - well, then you get what you deserve!
I don't get the Vista comparisons. Vista wasn't bad, Windows 7 is almost exactly the same. It's just that most computers at the time of Vista's release weren't good enough to run it.
Civ 5 has some cool ideas, I just wish the AI wasn't so inept and useless. And give us the SDK already.
I have no idea why people hate on Steam. I've been using it since it was released for HL2. At launch it was buggy, for sure, but that is a distant memory.
Today it is by far and away the best CDN for PC games, period, and it works perfectly for all 124 games in my library. I wish every PC game were on Steam. I left the throwback days of "omg i have to have the box art and the .... promotional insert?" a decade ago. I don't want the carton I want the bits, and with Steam I don't have to worry about losing keys or media, it's just sitting there waiting to be downloaded.
-Steam Fanboi #1337
Today it is by far and away the best CDN for PC games, period, and it works perfectly for all 124 games in my library. I wish every PC game were on Steam. I left the throwback days of "omg i have to have the box art and the .... promotional insert?" a decade ago. I don't want the carton I want the bits, and with Steam I don't have to worry about losing keys or media, it's just sitting there waiting to be downloaded.
-Steam Fanboi #1337
Peng Qi
Emperor
Teehee, this guy thinks Steam was released alongside HL2. =3
So? I don't care. I don't like it. I usually don't use it. Sue me...
Btw. if I walk into my next door media market store and see the people carry home huge stacks of CDs, DVDs, Blu-Ray-, XBOX- and Playstation-stuff I don't really get the impression conventional media is dead allready. I'd say that's just a lobby myth they like spreading - because it's in the interest of the big companies making customers believe DRM and digital dsitribution is customer heaven. They (or most of them, there are other examples like Paradoc or CD Project) want to have full controll, they don't want to bother with physical delivery and they don't want to share profits with intermediary distributors...
But why do I wast my time here - I allready said:
If all that does not bother you - well, then you get what you deserve!
And there's not much to add...
HL2 was the game that "forced" most people into steam, kicking and screaming at the time, but now that i can still d/load HL2 and play it on any of my computers, is pretty cool
cd drives are yesterdays media, sure they are still around, but then so was the 5 1/4 floppy
The Almighty dF
Pharaoh
I really don't get the hatred for Steam. It means I never have to worry about lost CDs and CD-keys, and the sales are awesome.
Sure, I can get the hate behind Civ5, it's easily the 3rd worst Civ game (2nd if you don't include the facebook game, and 1st if you also don't count Revolutions), but Steam has its merits.
I mean people complain about DRM but... unless you're only buying your PC games from Stardock or GOG, you're going to get DRM. Plain and simple. It's sadly how things work. I'd at least call Steam less of an interference than most, especially since, despite the claims some have made that it requires you be online at all times, has an offline mode.
Don't hate on Steam just because Civ5 sucked. There's plenty of real reasons to bash the game (crap multiplayer, extremely easy, smaller modding community due to the awkward design of the game, lack of balance, and moronic AI, to name a few) and you don't need to make up the evils of Steam as one of those reasons.
Sure, I can get the hate behind Civ5, it's easily the 3rd worst Civ game (2nd if you don't include the facebook game, and 1st if you also don't count Revolutions), but Steam has its merits.
I mean people complain about DRM but... unless you're only buying your PC games from Stardock or GOG, you're going to get DRM. Plain and simple. It's sadly how things work. I'd at least call Steam less of an interference than most, especially since, despite the claims some have made that it requires you be online at all times, has an offline mode.
Don't hate on Steam just because Civ5 sucked. There's plenty of real reasons to bash the game (crap multiplayer, extremely easy, smaller modding community due to the awkward design of the game, lack of balance, and moronic AI, to name a few) and you don't need to make up the evils of Steam as one of those reasons.
Fully agree. It's not much worse than DLC form XBOX live and a lot better than the cr... that comes with (for example) Spore, Assassins II or Diablo 3...
No, absoultely not. I actually was rather glad it was on Steam because it just made the decision to not buy that much easier.
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