7 Beta 25, Improper Showing of Suleiman Bonus

[Stalker0]

I'm noticing that the specialist yields for Suleiman are very strange. Merchants show +s to happy, scientists show bonus to military, engineers appear to be okay.

 

[Mortal D]

Merch happy dosnt work, but artists give 1 food lol

 

[QDI]

Merchant happy doesn't work indeed but it is normal that artists give food.

QDI

 

[Thalassicus]

The artist thing is a vanilla game problem where culture was poorly designed and not considered a yield like food, production, gold, and science. I've been gradually working at fixing this problem by recreating yield generation from the bottom up, but it's a long process since we can't look at the original code or fix it directly. Food for artists is a temporary substitute.

Happiness displaying for merchants appears to be a vanilla bug with the GetSpecialistYield function, which we don't have access to either so I'll have to reverse-engineer a replacement. It's only a display error however, and the +1 for merchants does appear to be working correctly (raises them from 3 to 4).

 

[Seek]

Started a game with the ottomans today and the engineer specialist was showing +1. Also, an unemployed citizen is really powerful early on with an extra - seemed a little out of place. (Not a bug but perhaps something to consider removing.)

 

[Txurce]

Also, an unemployed citizen is really powerful early on with an extra - seemed a little out of place. (Not a bug but perhaps something to consider removing.)

This seems to be constant. I always notice it when I'm trying to add hammers to knock a turn off my last spaceship part - unemployed people give hammers. Strange, unless it has to do with providing some benefit to those cities that grow in pop faster than tiles can handle.

 

[Seek]

This seems to be constant. I always notice it when I'm trying to add hammers to knock a turn off my last spaceship part - unemployed people give hammers. Strange, unless it has to do with providing some benefit to those cities that grow in pop faster than tiles can handle.

Sure, but Suli gets *three* hammers/unemployed, which seems unnecessary and possibly OP - UC's are supposed to be a bad thing.

 

[Txurce]

Sure, but Suli gets *three* hammers/unemployed, which seems unnecessary and possibly OP - UC's are supposed to be a bad thing.

I was probably unclear - I agree. I was just speculating as to the root cause.

 

[Thalassicus]

It's patterned off the Statue of Liberty, which is why even unemployed citizens get a bonus. The bonus to citizens isn't necessary. However, since specialists are primarily a mid/late game thing and Suleiman's UUs are also midgame, could making citizens useful actually be a positive thing for the leader? Sort of would change his playstyle when seeking early in the game. I could remove it if it feels too powerful.

 

[Seek]

It's patterned off the Statue of Liberty, which is why even unemployed citizens get a bonus. The bonus to citizens isn't necessary. However, since specialists are primarily a mid/late game thing and Suleiman's UUs are also midgame, could making citizens useful actually be a positive thing for the leader? Sort of would change his playstyle when seeking early in the game. I could remove it if it feels too powerful.

Like I said, I'm not sure it's OP at this point. It is a neat option for Suli, but he gets +2 (for 3 total) somehow; were the unemployed buffed at some point? I don't recall seeing this, and I'm not sure if it's desirable.

But either way, it's no big deal.

 

[Thalassicus]

I'm not quite sure why it might be showing up as 3, it's appearing as 2 for me. I'll investigate the code for that part of the City View to see if there might be any bugs.